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#1441 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

I turned on Fox radio for less than 20 minutes. 3 things of note:

1. Why didn't Dems care about policy & procedures during Obama!!  lol (GOP: When in doubt, blame Obama!)
2. Time to investigate the investigators.
3. We'll be updated soon on the Crisis At The Border.


Lol, Republican gameplan is Deny Deny Deny. Get thru today. Let it simmer over the weekend. Monday - Border Crisis is what's most important.

Barr totally cooperated with the GOP gameplan in chosing to release it today, total D-bag.

#1442 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

So. Much.Winning Mitch!!


Mueller: Obstruction by Trump failed because others refused to "carry out orders"

In the report, special counsel Robert Mueller outlined why obstruction by President Trump failed. It failed because others refused to "carry out orders."

    "The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests," the report said.

So...he didn't break the law?

Legal experts are already disputing this as a threshold. A "crime" doesn't need to be committed in order to meet Obstruction. Even just mucking around can warrant it.

#1443 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

After Trump publicly asked Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails at a July 2016 press conference, he privately and repeatedly “asked individuals affiliated with his campaign to find the deleted Clinton emails,” the report says.

The public request was also followed within five hours by Russian intelligence's first effort to infiltrate Clinton’s emails, the special counsel said.

They sent 15 email accounts connected to Clinton's campaign malicious links, Mueller said. This was only a small part of the broad effort the Russians made to hack the Democratic Party for damaging information and election officials.

One of the campaign people Trump asked was Michael Flynn, who later told investigators that Trump repeatedly made the request, according to the report. Flynn then tried to get Clinton’s emails and reached out to “multiple” associates — including GOP operative Peter Smith, whose efforts have been detailed in press accounts.

Why this matters: This confirms for the first time that a senior Trump campaign adviser was involved in Smith’s pursuit to find Clinton’s emails. Smith killed himself in May 2017 and left a note saying there was “no foul play.”

This seems to contradict what an unnamed Trump campaign official told The Wall Street Journal in June 2017, that if Mr. Flynn coordinated with Smith, it was only in Flynn’s capacity as a private individual.

During Smith’s shadowy pursuit of the emails, he told associates that he was working with Russian hackers. But the investigation concluded that Smith was never actually in contact with any Russians.

In emails to associates while trying to find the emails, Smith claimed he was working “in coordination” with the Trump campaign and name-dropped Flynn, Sam Clovis, Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway. The Mueller investigation established that Smith communicated with “at least” Flynn and Clovis but did not find any evidence suggesting that Smith was in contact with the other Trump campaign officials.

Mueller’s office interviewed multiple people about Smith’s efforts, according to footnotes in the report, and Flynn provided a lot of information about his role and Trump’s interest in the emails. Flynn was a marquee cooperator in the investigation and pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in 2017.

#1444 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

So. Much.Winning Mitch!!


Mueller: Obstruction by Trump failed because others refused to "carry out orders"

In the report, special counsel Robert Mueller outlined why obstruction by President Trump failed. It failed because others refused to "carry out orders."

    "The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests," the report said.

So...he didn't break the law?

In all your celebrating, it seems even though he tried really hard to be Trump, he did nothing that they can do a damn thing about.  2 plus years wasted.  Millions of dollars and time wasted. Absolutely nothing of any significance accomplished.  That's great.  Well done!

Yeah, no crime was committed lol.  Only The President of the USA ASKED people to commit a crime, and they told him 'No'. So, yeah, no crimes were commited.

Remember the time Barack Obama asked David Axelrod to rob a bank and Axelrod told him 'No'?   Well, neither do I, but if it DID happen, no crimes would have been commited.

#1445 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago


#1446 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

It's been a complete 180 from the report Barr spoke of.


Complete partisan ass!!

#1447 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

Ain't gonna be no rematch!

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#1448 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

So. Much.Winning Mitch!!


Mueller: Obstruction by Trump failed because others refused to "carry out orders"

In the report, special counsel Robert Mueller outlined why obstruction by President Trump failed. It failed because others refused to "carry out orders."

    "The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests," the report said.

#1449 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

Mueller on Donald Trump Jr:   He's too stupid to understand campaign finance law so we didn't prosecute.

Can't argue with that I suppose!  16 16 17

#1450 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 369 weeks ago

^^ But but but....  Trump himself said "Game Ova!!"  and he said it in a way a WWE wrestler says it during a promo, talking trash while holding his Intercontinental Belt.  So he won, right?!   He won?!!

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