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#1441 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

I think one of Trump's biggest downfalls last night was saying that he does not trust the information presented by our various intelligence agencies. In this case that Russia was directly involved in trying to influence the outcome of our election. He was given several chances to walk it back, but he stuck to it.

I found this much worse than him saying he would not concede the results of our election.

#1442 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

Steve Schmidt  is quoting internal polling here, and it sounds like the GOP are shifting into freak out mode. To hit 400 EVs though, they would have to lose both TX and AZ, which sure seems unlikely to me. But then again he seems to have access to data that we don't. His tonality says a lot too, the guy is dead serious. See clip below.

Republican strategist: Clinton could top 400 electoral votes

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre … -electoral

#1443 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

He lost any chance of any comeback by saying he would not accept the results of the election.

Bigtime screw up IMO. He just came off as juvenile and stubborn.

#1444 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

And Donald just admitted Obama threw millions of Mexicans out of the country, while trying to say he hasn't done anything about illegal immigration.

You caught that too?

He did that on the last debate, double talked, but nobody called him out on it.

Did anybody notice his energy in these last debates vs the primaries? The guy looks worn the eff out.

Hillary was prepared and handled this very well. Trump too seemed much more coherent, if only for a little bit. I had to laugh at him essentially blaming Hillary for not paying taxes, and using Chinese steel on his properties. What a joke.

I generally don't like Wallace, but he did a fine job I thought.

#1445 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

CBSN just reported they were told Trump is going "full nuclear" and bringing out all the stops.

I believe it.

I think they know any chance for the presidency is gone, but what they do have is somebody on a national stage espousing Brietbart talking points and destroying the GOP at the same time. This is something they've probably dreamed about for years.

I'd guess the opposite for Hillary. At this point all she has to do is run the clock out and not get caught up in his craziness.

#1446 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
bigbri wrote:

This election is so nuts.

In latest poll, McMullin leads Trump in Utah. The dude is actually peaking at the right time and could pull it off.

http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_98fe8b3 … c22ec9.pdf

That guy is more clueless than Johnson. The Christian right needs higher standards.

This is a Mormon thing, not an evangleical Christian thing. He's Provo Born and a BYU guy, which is hardcore street cred in Utahland.

The LDS church has been turned off by Trump for a long time, especially in regards to how he talks about women. Switching to the conservative Mormon makes total sense to me.

On a side note, a lot of people don't know this, but Salt Lake City itself is blue. They voted for Obama and they have openly gay representatives etc. It's the rest of the state that's deep red. Just an interesting factoid....

#1447 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

slashsfro wrote:

Alaska is now in play now?  He has no money in ARZ so I'd expect a loss there.  If you follow the money trail, it's obvious he'll get blown out and

The last poll in Alaska had them within margin of error, Trump up by 3.

The last two polls in Texas has Trump only up by 2 and 3 points respectively.

The last two polls in AZ has Clinton up by 2 and 5 points respectively.

Latest poll in Utah is within margin of error, Trump up by 2.

These are kind of amazing figures to me.

#1448 Re: The Sunset Strip » Rock hall of fame nominees » 525 weeks ago

Tupac? Please.

Journey would be my first choice.

#1449 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Like the Trump video it speaks for itself. When they have no other defense they attack the source.

Both have been fired, the words are in their mouths, now msm are starting to report it. It's real.

Even if it's 100% real (which I doubt given the history of the film maker) it's irrelevant in regards to the outcome of the election.

Trump supporters, just like their hero, are setting up excuses for the crushing loss coming up.

#1450 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 525 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

2 Democratic Operatives already lost their jobs over this. This happened since the video came out. Were they fired for being innocent?


People in ACORN lost their jobs too...only to find out later that it was all bullshit. But just to play Devil's advocate, let's pretend it's all legit...

I watched half of this video last night before falling asleep. I find it easy to believe this happens. But I highly doubt it's exclusive to just the Democrat party. Hell it happened during the GOP primary.

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As Flagg said earlier "This is how sausage is made." Lets not act like this is some sort of shocking revelation here. I certainly would not equate this to "rigging" and election by any means. Trump's polling numbers sucked, with the exception of a couple of times where he came close to Hillary. But make no mistake, she always led.

He's a lousy candidate: A pathological liar, has hours upon hours audio/video of him saying stupid shit, isn't really a conservative, is completely ignorant in regards to foreign/domestic policies, repeats conspiracy theories, is a racist, clearly doesn't understand the COTUS, makes outrageous accusations, is a serial adulterer, treats women like chattel and has a dozen sexual harassment/assault complaints by females. Nobody has to "rig" anything against this guy, he's a total loser on his own.

He also has a crappy ground game, isn't spending enough money, and refuses to take advice on how to run a campaign of this scope.

Red states are now in play: Alaska, Utah, Arizona etc. Not because the DNC planted protesters, but because the GOP put up an insane person to represent the party.

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