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#1451 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

Swastika And Jeers Greet Reporters On Donald Trump Trail
“The vitriol toward the media here is as bad as I’ve ever seen it,” says one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don … ?section=&

Frenzied Donald Trump Supporters Are Turning On The Media — And It’s Getting ScaryThe GOP candidate claims news organizations are at “war” to elect Hillary Clinton.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don … ?section=&

#1452 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

I don't think anyone disputes that more and more of the general public are getting disenfranchised with the 'status quo' or 'the establishment'.

What I dispute is whether the leader of the eventual and inevitable change will turn out to be a billionaire who has enjoyed and benefited from the existing system for his entire life.


Exactly. I agree on both counts. Nobody here would dispute that, and Trump is the status quo. He has been nearly all my life.

#1453 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

Former nuclear launch officers sign letter: Trump ‘should not have his finger on the button’

Ten former nuclear launch control officers who once held the keys needed to fire on the president’s order have signed an open letter saying they think Donald Trump should not be entrusted with the nation’s nuclear codes.

The letter, issued Thursday, says the decision to use nuclear weapons requires “composure, judgment, restraint and diplomatic skill” — all qualities that the former Air Force officers who signed it said Trump lacks.

“On the contrary, he has shown himself time and again to be easily baited and quick to lash out, dismissive of expert consultation and ill-informed of even basic military and international affairs — including, most especially, nuclear weapons,” the letter says. “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”

The letter is the latest in an extraordinary series of missives signed this year by diplomats and national security experts warning of the dangers they think a Trump presidency would pose. Last month, in a break from the trend, 88 retired military leaders endorsed the Republican presidential nominee. But most of the letters have reflected the views of those who consider Trump unfit to be commander in chief.

The former missileers who signed Thursday’s letter served at the nation’s four underground launch centers in the Great Plains from as long ago as the 1960s to, most recently, 2013. They do not endorse Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, or even mention her name, in the letter.

“No one who signed the letter wanted to disclose a position who they would vote for,” said Bruce Blair, who organized the letter and said he is a Democrat who will vote for Clinton but has no idea which candidate the others support. “The letter is focused entirely on Trump.”

Blair said the signatories are part of a circle of friends and acquaintances who were “flabbergasted and flummoxed” by the prospect of Trump winning the election. He said they decided several weeks ago to release an open letter, when polls showed Trump and Clinton much closer than more recent numbers do.


“It sort of snuck up on us,” he said. “They were at a virtual tie in the polls. You kind of woke up one day and realized it’s very possible that this person, this pathological liar, who lacks self-control, who knows very little about anything and is angry and aggressive, who might lash out with nuclear weapons if he’s elected, could win. That sort of dawned on everyone. We felt we needed to weigh in.”

The nation’s nuclear-armed missiles are kept at Air Force bases in Cheyenne, Wyo., Minot, N.D., and Great Falls, Mont. A fourth base’s nuclear facility, in Grand Forks, N.D., has been decommissioned.

If a president orders a missile launch, Blair said, five crews are equipped with keys used to fire a total of 50 missiles. Although the keys are interconnected, the missiles can be launched if just two crews carry out the order.

“Only the president can order a nuclear launch,” the letter states. “That order cannot be vetoed and once the missiles have been launched, they cannot be called back. The consequences of miscalculation, impulsive decision-making or poor judgment on the part of the president could be catastrophic.”

Blair said the officers are trained to put aside any personal doubts and trust in the system and the leadership.

“The presumption is, the commander in chief is acting in the national interest, and his decision should be grounded in knowledge and good advice,” he said. “Everyone would have to assume that, even though they had doubts — very strong doubts, if Trump were president.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na … story.html

#1454 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Trump - Unshackled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLcP0inAS5w

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Better than Pornhub for you guys huh?

I don't see the appeal frankly. The notion alone that he would claim the media was conspiring against him and the election itself was rigged, is an affront to our democracy. (Funny he never said this once during the GOP primary either) It's a dangerous precedent to say the least and could lead to violence post election.

He's tapping the hardcore base here, the 28-30%. The Brietbarts, the Infowar subscribers...this is red meat for them. But he's alienating everybody else in the process.

#1455 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Do you have a link to the speech?

Just go read the youtube comment section, it's the same thing, just not all weaved together.

#1456 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

Bill Cosby is going to endorse this guy any minute...

#1457 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

Video Shows Donald Trump Joking About Dating A Ten year old Girl When She Gets Older

This is like that SNL skit where the men met their future second wife....smh


#1458 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

There sure are a lot of stories piling up all of a sudden.

Once we hit a baker's dozen accusations, which I'm sure we have if I would bother to count, it's just like Cosby....there is no room left for giving him the benefit of the doubt. Hell even a CNN anchor said one of her friends had Trump all over her. It sounds like this guy grabs, fondles, kisses whoever he wants until he's told to stop or the woman runs out of the room. Remember he also has case filed against him for the alleged rape of a 13 year old.

Can the GOP get any lower than this? Arguing over the definition of sexual misconduct so their candidate doesn't look as bad.

#1459 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

Election Update: Women Are Defeating Donald Trump


But it seems fair to say that, if Trump loses the election, it will be because women voted against him. I took a look at how men and women split their votes four years ago, according to polls conducted in November 2012. On average, Mitt Romney led President Obama by 7 percentage points among men, about the same as Trump’s 5-point lead among men now. But Romney held his own among women, losing them by 8 points, whereas they’re going against Trump by 15 points.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ele … ald-trump/

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#1460 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

^ I'm worried he'll drag his loss out by refusing to concede and trying to file court cases. Who knows what could happen if he doesn't bow out of the election graciously.

Gawd what a horrible thought.

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