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#1461 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 518 weeks ago
The simple fact of Axl's arrival throws a wrench into those plans, though. AC/DC might normally follow a preordained cycle, but if they plan to make Axl/DC an ongoing concern, they need to get new studio material out asap.
We don't actually know that they intend Axl for the long term though.
Brian is apparently making progress with his hearing. Meanwhile Ac/Dc has previously used fill-in members for isolated situations such as this illness. For example the band previously used Stevie while Malcom was in rehab or alcohol problems some years back. Once that was passed they went back to Malcom. I could see a world in which they thank Axl for being a stand-in and helping them out of a jam - then return to business as usual.
Of course hard to know what the market would prefer on that one. Brian still has more legitimacy as the Ac/Dc singer - but it's also a fact that he's 68 and it's hard to imagine him pushing onto the next album cycle in his 70s even if they sort out his ears. Angus himself probably has about 10 years left of realistic health for this - Axl is young enough to facilitate this. I suspect many fans may be torn - their love for Brian against the vitality that Axl can bring to what is probably the band's sunset years next record.
Angus has said he hasn't decided what to do beyond these shows.
Assuming he does decide to keep Axl though I disagree that we'd need new material soon. I think these shows itself were the ground-breaker for the concept. They're making those short promo videos and clearly on a PR push to win people over. My next move would be to finish this tour - then release a pro-shot of one of the nights Axl was out of the chair and vocally still on fire - maybe London - or one of the shows yet to come. This would fit with the catalogue as they've done a DVD release of all of the other tours in recent years to close the tour.
Then have a couple of years downtime to refresh the market and write new songs. Then write your new comeback album ala "Black Ice" and "Rock or Bust" and just have Axl on vocals like it's normal. By then Axl on vocals will be old news and not shocking.
#1462 Re: Guns N' Roses » RICHARD FORTUS And DIZZY REED Exit THE DEAD DAISIES » 518 weeks ago
Fortus was replaced by Doug Aldrich (formally of Whitesnake) 
#1463 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 518 weeks ago
Let me drop some science... Axl/DC is the best chance you have at new material. Period.
It's the wrong time in the cycle though.
The Ac/Dc pattern is album drop, 2 year world tour, 3-4 years downtime, regroup, 6 months recording, album drop, repeat.....
On the normal pattern rock or bust would finish up the tour for the rest of this year, then go into down mode, Angus should resurface circa 2021 or so.
Given they're getting older maybe he'd work faster knowing he's running out of time. Or maybe slower given the touring would take more of a toll.
Additionally the next album may be harder to write - Malcom is not in the picture - the Rock or Bust was constructed from spare riffs Angus had kept lying around over the last two decades or so....but who knows if there's enough in that vault to go for a new album without needing to spend time writing properly....
I think Angus is the type to play until health stops him, but given these facts I think we're a few years out at least from the next record.
GNR on the other hand has had an album or more lying in wait since at least 2009, meanwhile Slash and Duff are back to repair any non-gnrness about it, and Slash smashes out an album about every 2 years or so.
Axl seems to be more like his old self, he seems happier, he is singing with rasp and seems to really care again - even doing stuff like coma.
I actually think a new-gnr album and maybe something epic is much more likely to happen next.
#1464 Re: The Sunset Strip » METALLICA Discussion » 519 weeks ago
It was just a joke, guys!
Didn't really mean anything by it.
Jeez.
Sorry wasn't having a go at you.
Just I've read lots of people who compare the wait for Ac/Dc material, and Aerosmith, and Metallica material to say that the CD wait wasn't that unusual.
However to me the killer point is that the GNR silence happened with out filler products for the most part.
There should be blu-ray releases of Tokyo, Ritz 88, Paris and all manner of other things for us.
I agree with James about LuLu - although the one thing I'll give them is they handled it well in a "get it out of your system way" - they had an odd idea - they made a record - they promoted it - they moved on again. While to most fans it was a WTF it didn't derail their entire career.
To me this is how Axl's industrial phase could have been handled.
Bring in trent or whoever and just go for it as a side project to get your creative rocks off - go nuts with it for 2 years then put it out as it's own thing - rather than attempted to forcibly remould the bands entire image around it long term.
Another similar idea was Michael Hutchence in MaxQ - a departure from INXS....did it and moved on.
#1465 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 519 weeks ago
Here's the standard I hold them to....if there's not even an inkling of new material by the end of 2017, we're not getting any. Period.
I understand why we aren't getting an album in 2016. If this is anything more than a nostalgia gravy train, we'll get something in 2017.
Yes although don't forget the 2 year Axl Buffer 
Album was re-done with Bumble in 2006, released in 2008.
Axl was done with nu-GNR in 2014 - reunion 2016....
One approach would be to tour this year on the reunion alone, then drop a follow up new-album to keep the flame burning in 2017...which means that we can expect it to actually happen circa late 2019
#1466 Re: Guns N' Roses » Half of CD vocals done in a week? » 519 weeks ago
The Blues
Madagascar
Riad
ProstituteThat's off the top of my head. Maybe add Scraped to that list as well. CITR...as great as that demo was, could use a fresh take as well.
Don't see a problem with IRS.....that scream was out of this world.
The scream is amazing - it's the last chorus after that - it's fine as it is - but then listen to the live version from 2006 Rock Am Ring and you hear him do the same inflections in full raspy scream and it's so much more passionate than the studio take.
Prostitute has issues but it's not the vocals, it's more about the guitar to me, don't think Bucket was the man for that job. Out of the whole album this is the one that feels unfinished and bucket's parts are cool in their own way but don't go with the song at all. The feel completely cut and pasted.
Riad has amazing vocals - it's one of Axl's great takes - try singing it in the shower - it's harder than it looks!
Madagascar is ok as long as you are ok with the creative decision to add the "old hurt" voice at the start - I can see that's not for everyone.
Mostly the issue with Maddy and Scraped and the album isn't the vocals it's the terrible mix. The "I would have never had it so far" parts at the end of scraped are so blurred in the mix it's absurd.
#1467 Re: Guns N' Roses » Half of CD vocals done in a week? » 519 weeks ago
Which songs need new vocals?
Only thing that comes to mind for me was that IRS was sung in 2006 with a lot more rasp and anger in the last verse...the rest of the album is pretty bad ass vocally.
#1468 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 519 weeks ago
monkeychow wrote:I'm concerned axl will have worn out his rasp with Ac/Dc and it will be back to mickey this tour.
I know. But I feel more confident in that he's having a good time, whereas before Mickey came out when he was sailing through the shows. He could still turn on the rasp when he wanted. I think he'll keep up the vocals.
Hope so. He seemed back to form in this london show so maybe he was just having a 'bad' couple of nights last week.
Would like to see these Axl Dc shows - they seem great.
As for GNR I guess we'll see. I really hope they do something fresh soon. Even just a single not an album or something would really reinvigorate things.
#1469 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Rose joins AC/DC » 519 weeks ago
I'm concerned axl will have worn out his rasp with Ac/Dc and it will be back to mickey this tour.
#1470 Re: The Sunset Strip » METALLICA Discussion » 519 weeks ago
It's not really like the CD saga.
In that 8 years they released:
Beyond Magnetic (B-sides that didn't make the death magnetic album)
3 Eps of Live Tour peformances
LuLu (Spoken Word Experiment with Lou Reed)
4 Blu Ray videos of Live Tour shows
Through the Never (theatrical movie and dvd/album)
So while it's been a long time between full albums - they've actually put out more than 10 music/video products in that time. Compare that to an 8 years of the CD saga where the band put out absolutely nothing....or I guess maybe the OMG single....
