Brett wrote:

My main problem with CD is Axl's lack of vocabulary and his singular songs that are extremely relevant to him, but should have been written broader so more people could relate to his music. TWAT is about Axl Rose, Estranged is about Axl Rose but subtle enough that anyone can take something from that song.

Dude!!!!!:mosh:

You have hit upon something that has really turned my world upside down in the last week or so.
I've been following this train wreck for 10 years, I truly believed that it could still be a Guns N'Roses record even without the old members, I truly believed that Axl was capable of pulling it off and had the guys with the talent to make a GN'R record that would stand tall with the bands mighty history.
The industrial elements, all the extra electronica, extra guitarists and general hoo-ha that was added to the sound never bothered me, it was quite exciting and refreshing. I liked or loved all the songs I had heard, I loved the show I attended, best gig of my life.

And now I have heard all of Chinese Democracy.... somethings changed.

I hear a whole lot of Axl Rose. I hear a whole lot of Axl Rose with Buckethead and Brain chucked in doing their thing, I hear all of that with Rons wanky bits and pieces cut and pasted onto the top of it.
I hear all of that with some quite bitter, resentful and occasionaly spiteful lyrics I have ever heard from a middle aged artist.
Its just seems like too much of Axl Rose and Axl Rose's sound with his allstar cast to convince me that this is GN'R.

Viewed as a whole, it is extremely singular like you say, and it just doesnt make me feel the way the earlier albums did.

I'm really trying hard to reserve judgement till I buy the album and digest it properly, but I'm slipping into the realisation that this is and always was an Axl Rose record.

"I wont bend my will to them" - Hmmmmm no, it seems you didnt, you dug your fucking heels in and did it your way.

Thats all well and good, but you called it Guns N'Roses.

I don't know if I'm comfortable with a record called Guns N'Roses that apparently has so much hostilty towards the guys that made that band so great.

Oh dear oh dear   I'm feeling confused and troubled, somethings not right here. It smells all wrong. And its not because I wish it was "like the old days", the music on this album is pretty great, but I'm still starting to have reservations..... I'm not positive that I'm feeling as supportive as I have been.

I agree Capt.

A 20 minute epic commercial filmed by Jackson in New Zealand, with a medley of There Was A Time, Sorry, Catcher In The Rye & This I Love playing over it. Featuring Axl in epic sword battles, Ron on an endless quest, Tommy being fed grapes by several hot angels, Robin & Frank kicking back a couple stouts before getting in a bar fight, Dizzy using rune magik to unearth the ghost of Chris Pitman to "show them all the way"

The commercial would also feature griffons and unicorns non-stop with dolphin sound effects.

Chinese Democracy - Best Buy - November 23rd!

Only very ignorant, stupid people bitch about his gimmick.

I like it. It's unique, and different. I just think he'd be cooler if he got rid of the KFC Bucket, donned an actual HQ Michael Myers mask, threw on mechanic coveralls and went out there.

That'd be fuckin' badass.