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#1471 Re: Guns N' Roses » Favorite Gnr Song From Each Album » 720 weeks ago
I have to be in a positive feeling towards love to "get into" Sweet Child. It's a song so overplayed and beat into the ground by everyone else other than GN'R than I just don't like associate myself with it. It might be their cheesiest effort from that period.
Plus in the present day, Myles Kennedy sings it far better live than current Axl has since 1993, which is shocking because I think Myles is a world-class shit singer.
#1472 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 720 weeks ago
The difference between Austin and Axl (they and the GN'R situation have eerie parallels), is that Austin was a far hard worker than Axl. Vince might not be able to trust Austin's opinion on how to a work an angle, but Vince could absolutely trust that Austin when he worked, stayed on the road and busted his ass, even if he had to down every Steveweiser and Vicodin to be there, something Axl is erratic at doing.
Austin only started pulling shit on Vince, when Vince had him working dumb ass angles that were burying his character. I don't blame him. HE and NOT WWE creative, HE worked very hard to create the Stone Cold character and no one else. I thought it was bullshit when Vince pulled the "I own the Stone Cold character" card on him, because that was solely Austin's creation. He practically wrote his own material for years, because he absolutely hated WWE creative, and still hates them, and thinks most wrestlers have better ideas for a work than the actual writers (and usually he's right).
The fact alone that Vince had Austin working with Scott Hall when Vince bought WCW was the bullshit moment of the century. Literally, like what the fuck. Everyone knew even then that there was only one card in the house everyone wanted to see that that was Heel Hogan ("Hollywood") vs. babyface WWF Austin 3:16. The fact that it didn't happen when Hogan could still do a decent work, Austin was still in shape and in his prime, I blame solely on Vince leaving too many creative moves in the hands of his kids. Just a MASSIVE missed opportunity. People are gonna blame Hogan and/or Austin for neither wanting to job to the other, but I blame Vince for not wanting to job to the fans. Everyone wanted that card. You could see Austin's frustration with the company at that point bleeding over into the material how much he hated working with Scott Hall. Not the man, but the character. He knew it was a dumb play. But he did it.
I don't blame him for working after that. It was entirely mishandled. And the fact that to this day, Vince, HHH, JR, Steph, etc. all think Austin made the wrong move walking away, I always saw it as the only move he could make to voice his displeasure. He'd been complaining for months, and no one really stepped in. The only card he had left to play was to just "take his ball and go home".
Axl has no quality about him like that. He'll take his ball and go home, before he ever even attempts to work. Austin will at least attempt to roll up his sleeves and come to a compromise.
#1473 Re: The Garden » Elementary School Shooting in US » 720 weeks ago
Poll at that speed and velocity of a jet liner, the camera doesn't even have the speed to pick up the explosion until after the fact, thus the initial delay. It did explode on impace, but the sumbitch was haulin' ass. The tip of the jet isn't going to instantly explode for all eyes and camera to see. Speed doesn't work that way.
If we'd of known everybody would analyze every second of it, we would've had Michael Mann and Dion Beebe there filming it with full digital HD cameras, and you probably would've picked up the instant explosion.
Plus at that speed, the plane could pushed itself further into the building before detonating.
Bottom line -- truthers' facts are just inconclusive.
#1474 Re: The Garden » Buying a Home!!! » 720 weeks ago
Axlin12 wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Only if you move further south...I'm not living in cold ever again.
And i'm the complete opposite. As soon as I can get out of here -- I'm GONE.
I am sick to death of living in hot weather. Friggin' done. It's absolutely embarassing and annoying for it to be 80 degrees in the middle of January in Florida.
I want cold. Or at least a place with seasons.
Would you like to shovel my driveway today?
It's actually not too bad. Just a few inches. I do like the changing seasons, and I don't mind the cold that much. Although the heating bills are far worse than the electric bills in the summer with the central air running, so in a financial sense I prefer the warm weather. And I don't mind the snow for the most part, as long as I'm not driving around in it, and it isn't TOO much snow. We had a winter 2 years ago that was insane. We'd get a major storm once a week that would drop a foot of snow on us the entire month of January. That was TOO much. There was no place to put the snow after awhile.
I will say though, I think it's easier to deal with the cold than it is with oppressive heat. I've been to the coldest game in Gillette Stadium history (2 degrees at kickoff, -10 windchill) and I've been to a late September game in Miami where it was in the high 80's, which really isn't THAT hot. The sun is different down there though, it's just stronger. I was far more uncomfortable in Miami than I was in New England. It was so hot. Our seats were at the top of the stadium, the air was unforgiving. There's only so much you can do to make yourself cooler. In the cold, you can layer up, use hand, toe, body warmers. It's much easier to deal with as far as I'm concerned.
That's kinda how I see it. When you're cold, you can get warmed up fairly easily just by additional clothing. But when you're hot -- it's hot. You mentioned running the heat in the winter, but running the AC in the middle of July in the south can be just as bad. It literally has to run 24/7, and even fans don't help, because all fans are doing is just stirring the hot. There's nothing worse than a fan blowing 95-degree heat. Alot of people say, "well it's worse in the Southwest". No it's not. I'd take 114 degree DRY heat any day (which is actually quite relaxing to the muscles), than 90 degree heat with 100% humidity in Florida, which literally feels like spending all day inside a running hot shower.
It's just miserable. Yes 80 degrees isn't that bad, when it's May or September. But when it's January? Come on.
As for when you came down to the see the Dolphins/Pats game, i've been in that stadium in the middle of the summer watching Marlins baseball back when they were still there. That place is ALWAYS unforgiveable. It's just a dead bowl. The wind doesn't circulate in there, and actually the upper deck is far more comfortable. If you try to sit in the lower terrace, forget it. It's hotter in that pocket than it is anywhere outside the stadium. The uncomfortability of that stadium is a large reason the Marlins pushed for a rectractable roof doom with their current Marlins park.
#1475 Re: Guns N' Roses » Favorite Gnr Song From Each Album » 721 weeks ago
Axlin12 wrote:I don't feel CD has any truely bad songs. Scraped has grown on me over the years. I think a collective least would be a combo of Scraped, Riad N' The Bedouins, and I.R.S. I think I.R.S. is ENORMOUSLY overrated by the fanbase. It's Shotgun Blues compared to something like Bad Apples imo. Bad Apples sounds like Don't Damn Me in comparison.
Totally agree on IRS
My whole family that likes GnR thinks I.R.S is the shit, including War, my brother, and my 2 cousins. I've always thought IRS was pretty good but everyone else in my family seems to think it's the best
Yeah, I don't actually think I.R.S. is bad, I just think it's easily the least.
LEAST FAVOURITES
AFD: You're Crazy
LIES: Move to the City
UYI I: Bad Apples
UYI II: My World
TSI: Buick Mackane
CD: I.R.S.
monkeychow wrote:Least Favs:
UYI2: Don't Cry Alternate (my little brain can't process 2 versions of the same song very easily, so I chose the more traditional version to keep. I like this but I could have left it as a novelty B-Side).
I always liked the lyrics to the alternate version better so obviously I always like it better than the orignal. I did mix them together one time though flip flopping between lyrics from each song. The song was exactly the same in length and nothing about it changed other than the lyrics. Axl would sing one line from UYI I and then the very next line would be from UYI II. It was pretty awesome and absolutely seemless. If you didn't know the lyrics to either song you'd never notice anything wrong with it. I Played it in he car one day and my buddy was trippin out cause he was thinking he was screwing up the lyrics when in reality I had mixed the two songs together
I remixed Don't Cry years ago, merging the original & alternate versions together in a full 8-1/2 minute epic, right up next to November Rain & Estranged.
Something about it just didn't work. I didn't duplicate the last solo, but I made the lyrics kinda trail like a continuing song, kinda like Estranged.
It was just too bloated, but honestly in that moment I really discovered how much better the alternate lyrics version is compared to the original, because somehow it found a way to stand out in comparison to the other in all of that jumbled mess. The lyrics were just stronger.
To me the ultimate point was that the alternate lyrics are more thoughtful and reflective and disillusioned and just a pure out unrequited love song, with an almost nihilistic tone. It feels like a Jar of Flies-moment, or some of the late-era Nirvana tracks. That's how those lyrics play.
I think the original lyrics version plays more like a straight-forward ballad with extremely accessible lyrics that are radio-ready. It still works, but it's simpler, sappy, and has more of a happier feelings like instead of unrequited love like in the UYI 2 version, the UYI 1 version it's like the girl figures out about the lost love and comes back. At least that's how it feels to me.
In a nutshell...
Don't Cry-original is the LA version of the song
Don't Cry-alternate is the Seattle version of the song
#1476 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl at the Golden Globes afterparty » 721 weeks ago
Not gonna lie that jacket Jon is wearng is pretty cool.
Also I'm conflicted. I can't tell if I think Miley Cyrus is hot or not.
I'd blast on it. And i'm usually pretty critical.
Maybe he just isn't able to let it go that 40-50 year olds aren't generally considered hot by 18-20 somethings
You know I hear this all the time, and think it's complete garbage. I see 20-25 year olds marrying 50 year old men all the time, both in Hollywood and in my own personal life.
I think there's certain men who get more 25 year old pussy at 50 than they did at 25. I have no clue what it is with broads and older men, but they LOVE old cock. I think it's because when they drop load 2 on 'em, they cuddle and talk about love, while the 25 year old guys light up a joint and play XBox or flirt with some other whore on Facebook.
#1477 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl at the Golden Globes afterparty » 721 weeks ago
he hasn't had surgery...just looks bloated and drunk
And despite my above post, I still believe this. He looks bloated from alcohol. No work. I think that 2001 LA look on local TV was from tons of chemical peels, and being a vampire, maybe even poor diet. He looked white as a ghost (would explain his nocturnal behavior), plus the peels are what gave him that glossy, plastic, unnatural look.
#1478 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl at the Golden Globes afterparty » 721 weeks ago
put me in the category of i dont care...honestly he can dress however he wants...if it include a scarf, cane and fumanchu then so what, if he can rock it then more power to him
he's more stylin than me, and partying at the hottest ticket in town...lol
i just cant be bothered to care about some other dude's looks thats all
But he's NOT rocking it Neemo. That's kinda the point. If the guy pulled it off, i'd say he was. To me, I never ever thought he looked AS bad in the jerseys n' Predator braids 10 years ago. I thought he found a way to make it -- "him".
This look, no.
I wasn't aware he had anything done to him until I started looking into some of the later shows on youtube and I noticed that wasn't just him getting older. Did he get surgery back in '00 or something? Especially when you look at that mugshot from '98 and then fast forward a few years. Looks like a completely different person. I do lose a ton of respect for people that do that shit to themselves unless it's needed to cover up a serious injury done to the part of the body. For alot of celebs, it becomes an addiction.
I don't think celebrities have an addiction to plastic surgery, but an almost flat out requirement. Megan Fox got her start because of her amazingly flawless looks that blended girl next door, with high school bad girl, with mature jailbait with femme fatale. But because of her looks, it only takes a year for you to be old news. So you start doing work, based on the pressures of those who say, "well you look great, BUT sweetheart you'd get more mature roles if you did this to your lips, or that to your cheeks or removed some tat's". And suddenly you do it.
Nicole Eggert and Alexandra Paul were two actresses who appeared on and were fan-favorites on the 90's syndicated action series, "Baywatch". They were also two of the ONLY actresses on the show that resisted plastic surgery. The reason this is significant is because the series was filmed in LA, primarily featured LA beach hotties as the series' heroines, and a flat out requirement to look perfect, YEARS before Hollywood caved into requiring it almost in every facet of the business. Eggert, who was a natural California beauty, basically was pressured into getting a boob job (and did). Paul was another athletic-type, but beautiful and was told "you look good, but you'd look better with a pair of these" and a producer threw down a Playboy in front of her, to try to encourage her to go get a major boob job (she was near flat chested). Paul refused, and was eventually written off the show.
Now this was a show that had constant hot chicks, running around in fake Blonde hair extensions, fake Double D boobs, and if you can't cover it up in makeup anymore, you go get work.
That (from what i'm told) is pretty much the LA game. That's how it is. And Axl might not be any different. When you live in a place, where EVERYONE YOU KNOW "gets work done all the time", you start thinking "what's the big deal? Everybody gets work done". Axl might've just been trying to keep up.
I'm a regular everyday person, far away from Hollywood and can easily say -- I need work done. Bono doesn't understand with someone "who looks fine", and granted Axl was a 'fit and skinny decent looking guy', so maybe Bono's argument works. But I think the thought process comes from when you look into the mirror and think mother nature made mistakes, and you want man to correct them. People tell me all the time, my chin looks fine. My chin looks fine. But I don't believe them. Because it does NOT look fine TO ME. I grow my beard out and do the goatee mixed with beard look (think Kim Thayil mixed with Opie on Sons of Anarchy) to cover up what I don't like, but ultimately if anyone ever has an interest in seeing me again without a beard, I feel I need work. But I keep getting told, I don't.
Now the other stuff I feel I need work on, most people are in agreement, but the one mentioned above is a nice example, because it's my thought process.
That might be how Axl felt, when everyone else was saying "what the fuck are you DOING?". I want the work done, but I don't want to turn out looking like Michael Jackson either.
#1479 Re: Guns N' Roses » One In A Million » 721 weeks ago
Everything is about inflection and how you use it. I've said nigger several times in my life while discussing a point of view, or reporting a news story. I'm obviously using an informational inflection in a "matter of fact" sort of sense. Kind of like saying the group name 'Niggaz With Attitude', like "I love those dudes" is different from saying the band name, then saying "I love those niggas". Now you're imappropriate.
I don't think even black people (the ones i've been around while using it) really care, because they knew without saying anything I was saying as a matter of fact informational take.
Intercourse said it exact. Axl's "THAT'S RIGHT!" is almost a full confirmation he was saying intentionally to just say it to piss everyone off. I get why he did it, because I do not like AT ALL when someone tries to censor me and tell me what I can and can't say because it might offend. I think that was Axl's point, and also the song was wrote from the perspective of a small town white boy disillusioned with the big city and not quite understanding the world at large, because (and this is still true) the world at large DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HIM. And that was his perspective.
Any of you ever ask yourself that question? We still have that problem. Everyone spends so much time trying to understand the perspective of being black or being gay, that they completely forget about understanding what it's like to be poor and white and American. It's its own thing. Something that is never given any respect as a way of life deserving of observance and Qualitative scientific inquiry, because... I dunno why. I guess no one cares.
This creates a race angst between whites and blacks, completely unobserve and unknown to most blacks. Even Obama himself acknowledged it and criticized the black community for not being more knowledgeable on it when he was running in 2008. And of course Obama tooks TONS of shit from the black community for even mentioning it, being called an Uncle Tom and stuff like that, and he had to remind them he was half-white as well as half-black and understood both perspectives because of it.
I do believe Axl experienced alot of that coming from a trashy, poor, white family from Indiana, and then jumping into LA. And that song was wrote from that perspective.
As for Slash, I don't think Slash is gutless for not challenging Axl on nigger. I think Slash probably didn't have a whole lot of experience dealing with the word. Slash looks hispanic frankly, his mother was black and British (right?) and with that in consideration, Slash also is a rocker who's also pretty anti-censorship. We don't know how Axl explained to Slash his use of the word, but if I remember correctly Slash was okay with it, but was scared they were gonna get in LOTS of trouble with the fans, media, and label.
What i'm stunned as, being in the entertainment industry, even then, that his use of the word faggots (especially with David Geffen around) didn't get him fucking fired or beat to death. Could you imagine Justin Bieber today recording a song that criticized faggots? People would absolutely flip in 2013 in a world that more and more people are coming out, it's more and more okay to live gay, and it's almost celebrated in the artistic scene in LA & NY; with emphasis on the music scene.
#1480 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 721 weeks ago
Hogan's former friend Bubba The Love Sponge pretty much said it all about Hogan when Hogan sued Bubba recently... "when he's broke or irrelevant -- he sues". That simply sums it all up about Terry. The man literally sues for AN-Y-THING.
As for Austin, it's a real shame how much time McMahon squandared with him. He pretty much said 3-4 years ago he was ready to go to give a major push to Randy Orton or CM Punk or both, if and when they were ready. Austin wanted to do it, just wanted to only come back to push a younger guy.
Then
*crickets*
I have no clue why it was left to absolutely nothing. Austin said full well he'd job to them if that's what it took. Maybe Vince thought the Austin brand would stay stronger if Austin just stayed retired.
I agree the Austin comeback moment has been lost at this point. He's too old. There's no way I could see him coming back for the 2 year run he hinted at 3 years ago.


