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#141 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
darknemus wrote:The band's lack of information flow puts everyone into such a desperate mode for, well, anything that often times, rational thinking goes out the window - I've been guilty of that, myself, on occasion. I don't know what you want me to 'help' with.. I share what I know when I learn it.. I openly speculate with other people (AND PROCLAIM IT AS OPEN SPECULATION) and I allow myself to be open to all possibilities.. even if I have become jaundiced by the lack of 'real info' when it comes to this clusterfuck of a band that somehow draws us together.. it is what it is.. que sera sera.
Well what about the other village disc ?
Tell us what your goals were as the chairman hypothetically ?
It seemed from the outside that the group had a individual whoses purpose was to control Rick and not let him affect the value of the assets of the hoarders and the rest of the village session disc uncirculated that they posses.
So "hypothetically" the hoarders already accepted what rick had would leak so take the loss and prevent him from doing more damage was their gameplan.
A bullshit outdated useless pdf a couple of poems for entertainment and leak the rest of the village stuff from the rick /bird purchase so the community would feel they got everything. Meanwhile the hoarding group maintains the rest of the village session disc that are uncirculated.
Thoughts Dark ?
Still waiting on your response !
Tee Hee
#142 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:Someone can claim oh this is a new GNR song, and play it over the phone. You do know it could be a fake right? And if it cant be verify it's not a lie to saying you dont KNOW if anything is out there.
Not sure why you are confused on this. There is a huge difference between KNOWING something for sure and someone claiming oh this is new GNR.
How many fakes of GNR stuff is out there, a lot.
for example, look at that clip of Closing it on you.
If I called Dark and said oh here is a unreleased GNR song, no one KNOWs if that song is legit or if its a fake, but just because I played it for him claiming its GNR, that doesnt mean he KNOWS there are leakes out there bc he is not sure if what I played him is legit or not.so to recap, just because someone claimed to play him unreleased GNR songs that does not mean someone KNOWS there are legit other songs out there.
Its not that confusing.
Yet you're not grasping it.
Dark saying he's heard unreleased stuff to axl s privately and changing it to publicly that maybe he did is a difference.
Let's not continue to go back and forth shitting up this thread.I am grapsing it just fine, its you who isn't. Also this is what Axl S is claiming Dark said, Dark has clarified what he said, yet you are still talkign Axl S word for it which is just weird.
Did you ever think for a second that Axl S misrembers what Dark actually said?
Axl s has better track record then dark does in my interactions with them.
I've said my peace. You can continue defending Dark all you want.
#143 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
The band's lack of information flow puts everyone into such a desperate mode for, well, anything that often times, rational thinking goes out the window - I've been guilty of that, myself, on occasion. I don't know what you want me to 'help' with.. I share what I know when I learn it.. I openly speculate with other people (AND PROCLAIM IT AS OPEN SPECULATION) and I allow myself to be open to all possibilities.. even if I have become jaundiced by the lack of 'real info' when it comes to this clusterfuck of a band that somehow draws us together.. it is what it is.. que sera sera.
Well what about the other village disc ?
Tell us what your goals were as the chairman hypothetically ?
It seemed from the outside that the group had a individual whoses purpose was to control Rick and not let him affect the value of the assets of the hoarders and the rest of the village session disc uncirculated that they posses.
So "hypothetically" the hoarders already accepted what rick had would leak so take the loss and prevent him from doing more damage was their gameplan.
A bullshit outdated useless pdf a couple of poems for entertainment and leak the rest of the village stuff from the rick /bird purchase so the community would feel they got everything. Meanwhile the hoarding group maintains the rest of the village session disc that are uncirculated.
Thoughts Dark ?
#144 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:What was the example? And dont tell me it was the That he's seen or heard no evidence of other songs.
Because someone said they think there are other songs out there and then saying that he's hasn't seen or heard no evidence of other songs is not a contradiction
One is your opinion like oh I think there are aliens out there
then saying I have not seen or heard any evidence of aliensSo saying in a private group that you have heard unreleased songs then denying it publicly by putting caveats on your prior statements is what liars do.
I don't understand your confusion.
Someone can claim oh this is a new GNR song, and play it over the phone. You do know it could be a fake right? And if it cant be verify it's not a lie to saying you dont KNOW if anything is out there.
Not sure why you are confused on this. There is a huge difference between KNOWING something for sure and someone claiming oh this is new GNR.
How many fakes of GNR stuff is out there, a lot.
for example, look at that clip of Closing it on you.
If I called Dark and said oh here is a unreleased GNR song, no one KNOWs if that song is legit or if its a fake, but just because I played it for him claiming its GNR, that doesnt mean he KNOWS there are leakes out there bc he is not sure if what I played him is legit or not.so to recap, just because someone claimed to play him unreleased GNR songs that does not mean someone KNOWS there are legit other songs out there.
Its not that confusing.
Yet you're not grasping it.
Dark saying he's heard unreleased stuff to axl s privately and changing it to publicly that maybe he did is a difference.
Let's not continue to go back and forth shitting up this thread.
#145 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:that is why I am asking Axl S to give examples of what these supposed lies are. Instead of just making a claim and not backing it up.
since nothing Dark has said to me or that I have seen him post on these forums have been a lieHe did give a example and Dark responded with excuse answer above.
What was the example? And dont tell me it was the That he's seen or heard no evidence of other songs.
Because someone said they think there are other songs out there and then saying that he's hasn't seen or heard no evidence of other songs is not a contradiction
One is your opinion like oh I think there are aliens out there
then saying I have not seen or heard any evidence of aliens
So saying in a private group that you have heard unreleased songs then denying it publicly by putting caveats on your prior statements is what liars do.
I don't understand your confusion.
#146 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:Nothing dark has said has been a lie
thus why I am asking if Axl S thinks he lied then I wanted to example to see what he thought a lie wasAnd how would you know what he's said to other people then yourself ?
that is why I am asking Axl S to give examples of what these supposed lies are. Instead of just making a claim and not backing it up.
since nothing Dark has said to me or that I have seen him post on these forums have been a lie
He did give a example and Dark responded with excuse answer above.
#147 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
I have never been dishonest with anyone in the fan community with the exception of suspected hoarders.. just to clarify. I am also VERY careful in the words I use - I said I have not SEEN any empirical evidence... note the key word.
It is impossible for me to claim with certainty that anything I've HEARD (without having access to the original file(s) either over a phone or Discord or whatever is legitimate .. ESPECIALLY given how easy it is to manipulate those things now-a-days.
Have I claimed to hear things that I suspect to be real? - Abso-damn-lutely. Have I ever proclaimed they are with 100% assurance - nope.. and wouldn't until I got the source material myself to check out.
I'm not here to cause static or be a problem.. I'm just a dorky fan like everyone else at the end of the day.
#Peace
Lmfao fucking word obfuscation
Surprised you didn't say hypothetically.
Are you going to dissapear and lurk or engage with Axl S when he replies to your statement ?
You want to help ?
Then do it publicly.
#148 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:Why did you just repeat yourself
I wanted you to explain it better with evidence or examples of why you think he is lyingGive examples of how you think he lied?
You do understand he could think there is other stuff out there but has no evidence to back up that claim.
Its like I have no evidence there are aliens but I think aliens are out there.
Ummmm there was this group
That went by a certain name
I can verify Axl s would have knowledge
Of what was said in that group as im sure others can also.Friendly fire Dave.
Now Dave is good guy and so is Axl S
You both want the same things.Nothing dark has said has been a lie
thus why I am asking if Axl S thinks he lied then I wanted to example to see what he thought a lie was
And how would you know what he's said to other people then yourself ?
#149 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
Haven’t we gotten past talking in riddles and vagueness after all this time?
Dude im trying not to out a fella.
But if your not a newbie it's pretty clear what i was referring too.
#150 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 144 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:dave-gnfnr wrote:How is he lying?
That he's seen or heard no evidence of other songs.
Either he's lying now, or he's telling the truth and he lied to me in the past.
Why did you just repeat yourself
I wanted you to explain it better with evidence or examples of why you think he is lyingGive examples of how you think he lied?
You do understand he could think there is other stuff out there but has no evidence to back up that claim.
Its like I have no evidence there are aliens but I think aliens are out there.
Ummmm there was this group
That went by a certain name
I can verify Axl s would have knowledge
Of what was said in that group as im sure others can also.
Friendly fire Dave.
Now Dave is good guy and so is Axl S
You both want the same things.
