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#1501 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

So anyone who disagrees with Trump should leave, right?


How about Obama. 2008-2016. Obamacare. Should they have left too? The people who disagreed with it. Hannity, Rush, Tea Party. McConnell didn't like Merrick Garland, he should've just left. If a Dem wins in 2020, Republicans should just leave. Go somewhere else. Got it guys, way to paint yourselves into a corner 22

No, just people who openly hate this country and are either refugees or the children of refugees.

Who’d have thought in 2019, patriotism and love of one’s country would be decried as racism and xenophobia. Only in America.

#1502 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago

These same people said Biden and Pelosi were racists last week. So keep that in mind.

#1503 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

The whole “Russian Interference” of $100k in Facebook ads occurred on Obama’s watch, and he did dick.

I agree with you. He had a dilemna, announce to the public Russians are working to help Trumps campaign, and make it look like HE is interfering with the election, or let things ride out. In a typical Obama case of overthinking, he saw Hillary's lead in the polls, and made the decision not to announce this or make it public.

When Trump won, the info was passed along & investigations began. Which explained Trumps early on tweet about "I just found out Obama secretly wiretapped Trump Tower". because, as President, he is updated on activities in the intelligence community.


Also, I wouldn't view Mueller testimony as a win for Trump. Barr's been awfully silent since the reports release, and there could be a bit of gamesmanship among the two as Mueller was never happy Barr gave his own summary and not the summaries which were included in the report, nor how Barr essentially quelled the report as a whole.

Odd that Mueller initially stated he had no intention of speaking, then ultimately made the decision to speak. Interesting....

Democrats threatened to subpoena him. He agreed to 2 hours under each committee. 2 hours, spilt between each party.

#1504 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago

Hint:  there was no underlying crime, so obstruction would be impossible to prove. And Democrats should be very careful how they tread, cause when Republicans ask why a Clinton funded Russian dossier was deemed credible, and all the “spying” on the Trump campaign occurred, it may not look good for them. The whole “Russian Interference” of $100k in Facebook ads occurred on Obama’s watch, and he did dick. And Democrats have yet to introduce any legislation to protect the 2020 election, so yea, tread lightly. Especially if they’re going to allow Omar and AOC to be the face of the party in the elections.

#1505 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Anyway my point isn't to debate this topic as much as it is Pelosi would be well served to have a left hook like this ready to drop. Trumps just following the Steve Bannon theory of set off a powder keg to divert attention from something else. After Acosta resigned, his immigrant roundup was a flop, so he pulled this. It's been intentional. Also wasn't Mueller supposed to testify today?  I take it that got pushed back a week.


Tomorrow. I hadn’t heard if the week delay was confirmed, but don’t get your hopes up. Mueller has repeatedly told Nadler and Schiff he won’t say anything not in the report.

#1506 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago

Kind of hard to call Trump’s tweet racist and feign outrage when Pelosi couldn’t even get her party to unite against Omar’s repeated anti-Semitic remarks. Some Americans, myself included, think refugees that were welcomed from third world shitholes should be a lot more grateful and a lot less angry and vocal about how horrible a nation their parents and themselves had no part in building or supporting. But I’m just the common man, and don’t pretend that the “squad” are intelligent, informed, nor represent any sizable portion of American beliefs.

But yea, side with the woman who described 9/11 as “some people doing a thing”.

#1507 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 356 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Do you understand the way the House and Senate are set up?  If you do, you're asking a stupid question. If you don't, you should never open this thread again. 

It's set up the way it is to protect exactly what you want to happen from happening.

Of course i understand the difference....the house of all branches should reflect the will of the people.

Right now it’s the most worthless branch of government.

And fuck you for thinking so little of me that i wouldn’t understand that.

You still haven’t answered my question...why should i bother voting? The decisions have already been made and my vote counts 50 percent of what some others.

You didn’t know Democrats gerrymandered Maryland and there was a major SCOTUS decision 2 weeks ago. And I have serious doubts if you understand how our legislature works or the desire to understand it.

You’re the bigot you accuse everyone else of being. “Fuck flyover country and actual Americans who grow our food. But why aren’t you guys outraged that illegal immigrants aren’t being treated like citizens! MAGA!!!”

You openly hold our constitution with scorn, comparing it to the Bible. Why would anyone care what you think is right?  Your position is fundamentally unamerican.

The constitution is what unites us as Americans. Not skin color, but a shared belief and reverence of that document. And you openly detest it.

#1508 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago

Is no one aware Maryland was sued for Gerrymandering by Democrats, and was just declared legal by SCOTUS 2 weeks ago?

So yea, there’s your example. And yes, importing millions of people and attempting to count them for representation under the constitution is as nefarious as it comes. Remember 22 years ago when the FBI pulled Ellian Gonzalez from a closet, and the Democrats cheered Clinton?

#1509 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Acosta's toast. Completely unemotional, no sympathy for the girls, claiming he did right and proud he did something as opposed to letting Epstein walk free. Blaming the process & other people, making it seem like he didnt have other options.

A few pretty long pauses after some questions asked.

He'll be gone Friday.

Damn, you were spot on

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/12/labor-s … -case.html

#1510 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 357 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I'm generally not a conspiracy theory person,

Me neither really.  @RandallFlagg 16


Lol. big_smile you guys can drink the kool aid. I have no clue the extent of this. Though what’s been publicly released is that he offered local girls money for sexual acts; not kidnap and ship girls around the world in a secret pedo ring. Before I consider that possibility, I need actual evidence to support such a radical idea.

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