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#1581 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

This is pretty big, methinks. It’s not collusion, but definitely obstruction. And Mueller has emails, texts and documents that show exactly what Cohen alleges, they’ve reported.


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Wow, that's a crime alright (obstruction), in & of itself. Let alone the 'why' he is asking Cohen to lie (what are they covering up)

And if there are texts, emails etc.. Trump is doomed.

#1582 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

I think Cohen leaked word to the Trump camp what he's gonna spill about. That's why Guiliani changed the tone.

#1583 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

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#1584 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

Hmm, so Guiliani also said "There's only one thing Trump could be accused of here, 'Conspiring with the Russian to hack the DNC'"  which reads as pre-tense, before it happened.

It's noticable how he doesn't word it in a present tense or past tense, as in 'Working with Russia to obtain the hacked emails' as if that in itself wouldn't be a crime. Since the crime was already committed.


My guess is they do one of two things, claim innocence due to naivete, just being 'new to politics' Trumps campaign was unaware of alot of laws & regulations.  Or claim he was blackmailed, setup, or asked they release the info, but not ask or be aware they were criminally obtained. Things like that, definite wordplay tho.

#1585 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

Read this about Guiliani, "He knows something is coming and getting ahead of it.".  Makes sense, let's wait a week or two & see if something bubbles.

#1586 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

What happened with Mike Pence today?  Was that just an awful coincidence, or was he responding to todays event when saying "ISIS is defeated?"

Just read up on it, seems he must've been told right beforehand, and was too late to consider changing his speech. Myb they didn't get the details in on it yet.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mi … ar-BBSlmRr

Just more incompetent people Pa...really scary to me

They’re just saying things to say them at this point. There’s still a significant portion of society that wants to hear it.

Lol, now Guiliani is saying "No collusion between Donald Trump, and Russia"  but claims he never said anything about 'The Campaign' lol. A nod in acknowledgement to collusion!


Collusion it is folks!  Get yer popcorn ready, here comes the finish.

#1587 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

What happened with Mike Pence today?  Was that just an awful coincidence, or was he responding to todays event when saying "ISIS is defeated?"

Just read up on it, seems he must've been told right beforehand, and was too late to consider changing his speech. Myb they didn't get the details in on it yet.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mi … ar-BBSlmRr

#1588 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Listen, running these freshmen senators who lack a single legislative accomplishment or any accomplishments quite frankly, isn’t a winning formula. Going hard left isn’t a winning formula. Look at this last election, Ohio and Florida both went Republican in their senate and governor races.

I think Biden can win, but he’s an old white man. That won’t resonate with the far left. To get the democratic nomination in 2020, you’re going to have to have a vagina or brown skin. The democratic primary will be all about identity politics.

I agree with you on most fronts. I think Warren is my likely 'early bird prediction', although I'd like to say that Bernie's 'disruption' might kindof lead us to whomever wins (ie. someone take his steam or leftover supporters) which may or may not be Warren. Sorta like when Rand Paul ran alot in 04/08?

I'd like to see a Governor gain steam, or myb Bloomberg or someone from the business sector (Gates).

#1589 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

This guy may be the most qualified person Trump has ever appointed. Sounds a whole hell of a lot smarter than anyone that questioned him in the senate.

Oh yeah, forget all the other 10+ members we felt were gonna be great, they all were losers.  This guy tho, this guy, is gonna be great.


Flagg I don't get how you say Holder will run/win in 2020?  Is there much talk of him, I can't see him getting any momentum if he does run.

Also, SG I think some just like to elevate their 'brand' and also a VP nod becomes a possibility too.

#1590 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 382 weeks ago

I agree the 'borderline illegal' were my words, partially based on unwillingness to search more a more descriptive term (being that we're only on a Guns N Roses message board).

That said, Trumps done A LOT of self serving things to arrive at this point. (Fire Comey, Belittle Rosenstein & Mueller, Fire Sessions, Call the investigation a Hoax & Fake News)

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