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#1591 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
Have you read Hillary's job plan? Serious question. Her solution to creating jobs is taxing the fuck out of the rich (good luck) and taxing companies that send jobs overseas (even more good luck) and with that money that she'll never get, she is going to magically create millions of high paying jobs. That's her solution.
I don't think anyone supporting Hillary has a right to complain about Trump's nothing plans.
GOP day one: The free market is the only way, let it decide everything and allow the chips to fall where they may. In fact the government has very little impact if any on the economy (your words paraphrased)
GOP day two: What are Obama/Hillary/Fill-in-blank doing to create more jobs?
#1592 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
New national poll has Hillary at +10. Her average is up there too. I'm not a big fan of national polls, but I know some of you guys prefer them, so here you go.
When they add in Stein and Johnson Hilary's average drops to +4.5. I'm too lazy to add that though.
The Democratic nominee drew wide levels of support from women (60 percent to 36 percent), those between the ages of 18-34 (64 percent to 29 percent), and 35-49 (53 percent to 39 percent). Trump, meanwhile, holds a smaller advantage among men (48 percent to 42 percent) and a large lead over Clinton among whites who do not have a college degree (58 percent to 35 percent).
Independent voters prefer Clinton slightly, 46 percent to 41 percent, while likely voters between the ages of 50-64 are split, with 46 percent behind Clinton and 47 percent backing Trump. Voters 65 and older supported Trump 49 percent to 45 percent.
While Trump holds an 11-point edge among all white voters (52 percent to 41 percent), there remains a significant difference between white men and white women.
But even as 59 percent of white men backed Trump to 32 percent for Clinton, the survey shows that Trump still has some ground to make up with white women, a group that Mitt Romney won by 14 points, according to exit polls. Clinton leads Trump 49 percent to 46 percent among white women likely to vote, holding a more comfortable 62-point lead (77 percent to 15 percent) among non-white voters.
Nine in 10 voters surveyed said their minds are made up about their decision, with roughly the same share of Trump and Clinton supporters indicating that level of certainty.
#1593 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
So the other candidate who hasn't done an interview in 7 months because every word is scripted and controlled is both more believable and desirable than the candidate willing to go on every network and talk off the cuff?
I notice that whenever somebody takes a bite out of Trump/GOP you immediately pivot to the other side of the equation. I can say Trump is a racist demagogue and the first thing you'll say is "Yea, but Hillary..."
You plan on voting for this man, I'm curious how you can justify that action. He's not a conservative, he clueless in regards to the COTUS, how government works, he's a bigot, he's a conspiracy nut (birther), he constantly changes his mind, his tax plans would blow up deficits, he is ignorant in regards to foreign affairs, he mocks our vets, most established conservatives find him to be dangerous and is clearly a pathological liar. Yet whenever any of these truths have a light shone upon them, you immediately point fingers elsewhere.
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Trump may be a blowhard and a moron at times, but at least he's offering real solutions to the problems most Americans care about rather than only offer fantasy and imagined problems.
You can't sincerely believe this. It's one thing for Hannity and Coulter to stoop so low, but this really surprises me that you'd fall for this nothing-burger that Trump is selling.
#1594 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
Cramer wrote:And it certainly appears that Trump is softening/changing his stance on immigration as reported last week. Again, kind of a big deal.
If he can completely change here and hurt his base support, he can really get away with murder, and people are going to have to take a whole other lokat his appeal. Maybe that's a good thing. His outreach to the black community has been a disaster, IMO. Why isn't he speaking to black groups and leaders?
He's reaching out to rooms full of white people in regards to the black community. I'm sure it makes perfect sense to him.
#1595 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
And it certainly appears that Trump is softening/changing his stance on immigration as reported last week. Again, kind of a big deal.
#1596 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
The conservative philosophy in 2016: Black people suck, woman are dumb, and Hispanics can do the shit work for shit pay but we'll still hate them anyway."
I'd argue they've been like this for the last 30 years...
As demographics change, the GOP gets the majority of white votes and still lose. They'd like us to believe that the Dems cater to minorities via race baiting etc, but in reality all we have to do is listen to them speak. It's why I'm not a Republican...all I have to do is listen to what they have to say, most of it is pretty vile.
#1597 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
Which article?
There have been several articles written about it actually. But here is a good one, Poll Averages Have No History of Consistent Partisan Bias
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/pol … isan-bias/
Notice Breitbart saying the same thing about oversampling in 2012, which was wrong on election night.
Surprise! Oversampling Dems Puts Obama in Lead
#1598 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
What have I focused on? Finck butchers the classic GnR songs (truth) and the job market. Why the job market? Because I know it better than all of you combined, that's why. So while in your imagination I chime in on everything, the facts beg to differ. This misdirection is what losers do when they know they are beaten. I am an expert, I am paid like an expert, and I am respected in the industry as an expert. My peers respect me as an expert. The fact that two assclowns online disagree with my assessment so they feel I can't be an expert changes nothing. You guys don't matter, my paycheck comes in every 2 weeks and I'd have companies begging to hire me if I had to find a new job tomorrow.
Suck on that for a little bit.
You're such a bore...truly. Just indignant, arrogant and banal. Your diatribes aren't even your own, they're just rehashed blog noise that I can just as easily find in the youtube comment section.
So again, your "Proof" is that you're a self proclaimed expert? As I said...
The reality is that there was only one basic metric in regards to how we arrived at UE numbers...until Obama became president. Once that happened, the GOP redefined how we would calculate that number and proceeded to trot out the "true" numbers. You clowns do the same thing, in different ways, with polling data and anything else that upsets you. Everything is "skewed" everything has a "liberal bias" etc etc. Math, science, economics...it's all a conspiracy because it doesn't say what you'd like it to say.
No need to answer (although I bet your enormous ego is incapable of silence) I'll just go look for a similar response over at Breitbart...will be the same thing anyway.
#1599 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
Can I just say those naked Trump statues are completely stupid. I thought body shaming was bad? It's like when that female Trump supporter was assaulted by an entire group of Mexican protestors. She was spit on, cursed at and had flag poles and Mexican flags shoved in her face... On live TV ...and liberals said nothing. They were too busy reporting on Amber Heard.
I found that repugnant actually.
#1600 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 507 weeks ago
The fact you made this all about yourself says everything. Sorry, James, I won't play into his crap no mo.
He's the smartest guy he knows!!! He also knows a lot of very very VERY smart people, tough people, who all say he's an expert in his field. You can ask any of them.

