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#1591 Re: The Garden » My grandma died » 532 weeks ago
Sorry to hear this. My condolences.
#1592 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R documentary on Showtime » 532 weeks ago
Looks like all the other GnR/80s hair metal hedonism docs I've seen before....maybe we'll get a few new moments.
#1593 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
Donald Trump’s Mixed Signals on Immigration Roil Campaign
http://www.wsj.com/article_email/donald … NjAyNDYxWj
Mark Krikorian, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors stricter immigration controls, blamed Mr. Trump’s new advisers for his changed rhetoric—a move he said was intended to help Mr. Trump appeal to Hispanic audiences.
“Whatever remaining chance he had to win the White House is gone,” Mr. Krikorian said. “The fact now that he has betrayed his base on the signature issue that he ran on seems to me the death knell of his candidacy as a practical matter.”
Mr. Trump’s hard-line immigration proposals pushed his GOP primary rivals to the right. Sen. Ted Cruz said illegal immigrants would be forced out of the country and not be allowed to return. Sen. Marco Rubio abandoned his prior support for comprehensive immigration reform.
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who argued during the primary that Mr. Trump’s plan wasn’t realistic, called his new rhetoric “disturbing,” in an interview Thursday with WABC radio in New York
“His views will change based on the feedback he gets from a crowd, or, you know, what he thinks he has to do,” said Mr. Bush. “That’s what politicians do in this country. That’s what Trump is trying to do right now. I find it abhorrent.”
#1594 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
Well, buzz, I used the facts. You see, I don't actually base everything I know off commercials or ads. I research. She is not taxing the fuck out of anyone, and I don't remember any ad where she claimed that was her plan, tbh. The rich are still going to be rich. No one will be made poor. They will be rewarded for investment.
Not so much? I used her own tv commercial to lay out her plan. Are you claiming her own commercial got it wrong?
Yes, a TV commercial encompasses a candidates entire job/economic platform. Sounds logical.
#1595 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
Have you read Hillary's job plan? Serious question. Her solution to creating jobs is taxing the fuck out of the rich (good luck) and taxing companies that send jobs overseas (even more good luck) and with that money that she'll never get, she is going to magically create millions of high paying jobs. That's her solution.
I don't think anyone supporting Hillary has a right to complain about Trump's nothing plans.
GOP day one: The free market is the only way, let it decide everything and allow the chips to fall where they may. In fact the government has very little impact if any on the economy (your words paraphrased)
GOP day two: What are Obama/Hillary/Fill-in-blank doing to create more jobs?
#1596 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
New national poll has Hillary at +10. Her average is up there too. I'm not a big fan of national polls, but I know some of you guys prefer them, so here you go.
When they add in Stein and Johnson Hilary's average drops to +4.5. I'm too lazy to add that though.
The Democratic nominee drew wide levels of support from women (60 percent to 36 percent), those between the ages of 18-34 (64 percent to 29 percent), and 35-49 (53 percent to 39 percent). Trump, meanwhile, holds a smaller advantage among men (48 percent to 42 percent) and a large lead over Clinton among whites who do not have a college degree (58 percent to 35 percent).
Independent voters prefer Clinton slightly, 46 percent to 41 percent, while likely voters between the ages of 50-64 are split, with 46 percent behind Clinton and 47 percent backing Trump. Voters 65 and older supported Trump 49 percent to 45 percent.
While Trump holds an 11-point edge among all white voters (52 percent to 41 percent), there remains a significant difference between white men and white women.
But even as 59 percent of white men backed Trump to 32 percent for Clinton, the survey shows that Trump still has some ground to make up with white women, a group that Mitt Romney won by 14 points, according to exit polls. Clinton leads Trump 49 percent to 46 percent among white women likely to vote, holding a more comfortable 62-point lead (77 percent to 15 percent) among non-white voters.
Nine in 10 voters surveyed said their minds are made up about their decision, with roughly the same share of Trump and Clinton supporters indicating that level of certainty.
#1597 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
So the other candidate who hasn't done an interview in 7 months because every word is scripted and controlled is both more believable and desirable than the candidate willing to go on every network and talk off the cuff?
I notice that whenever somebody takes a bite out of Trump/GOP you immediately pivot to the other side of the equation. I can say Trump is a racist demagogue and the first thing you'll say is "Yea, but Hillary..."
You plan on voting for this man, I'm curious how you can justify that action. He's not a conservative, he clueless in regards to the COTUS, how government works, he's a bigot, he's a conspiracy nut (birther), he constantly changes his mind, his tax plans would blow up deficits, he is ignorant in regards to foreign affairs, he mocks our vets, most established conservatives find him to be dangerous and is clearly a pathological liar. Yet whenever any of these truths have a light shone upon them, you immediately point fingers elsewhere.
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Trump may be a blowhard and a moron at times, but at least he's offering real solutions to the problems most Americans care about rather than only offer fantasy and imagined problems.
You can't sincerely believe this. It's one thing for Hannity and Coulter to stoop so low, but this really surprises me that you'd fall for this nothing-burger that Trump is selling.
#1598 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
Cramer wrote:And it certainly appears that Trump is softening/changing his stance on immigration as reported last week. Again, kind of a big deal.
If he can completely change here and hurt his base support, he can really get away with murder, and people are going to have to take a whole other lokat his appeal. Maybe that's a good thing. His outreach to the black community has been a disaster, IMO. Why isn't he speaking to black groups and leaders?
He's reaching out to rooms full of white people in regards to the black community. I'm sure it makes perfect sense to him.
#1599 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
And it certainly appears that Trump is softening/changing his stance on immigration as reported last week. Again, kind of a big deal.
#1600 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 532 weeks ago
The conservative philosophy in 2016: Black people suck, woman are dumb, and Hispanics can do the shit work for shit pay but we'll still hate them anyway."
I'd argue they've been like this for the last 30 years...
As demographics change, the GOP gets the majority of white votes and still lose. They'd like us to believe that the Dems cater to minorities via race baiting etc, but in reality all we have to do is listen to them speak. It's why I'm not a Republican...all I have to do is listen to what they have to say, most of it is pretty vile.
