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#1621 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
#1622 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
Never in my life have I seen such a media campaign against someone. Typing Trump and news in google and it's pages upon pages, all negative.
The guy says horrible things. What do you expect?
#1623 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
Just an FYI on that story, it's entirely based on Rasmussen polling, which is one of the most right-leaning pollsters out there. It only gets a C+ on Nate Silver's ranking of pollsters.
And I keep reading "the race is close."
Where is it close?
Will someone answer that? I'm begging you.
The battleground states aren't even battlegrounds at this point. Washington Post poll just released has Hillary up by 7, 8, 9 or more points.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/201 … DPpMbWibQ#
The great thing about the poll above is you can change it based on different responses, likely voters, registered voters, democrats, etc. Take a look. She gets 88% of Dems to vote for her; he gets 77% of GOP. She gets 39% of Ind.
Alarmingly, she gets 87% of the black vote and 69% of the non-white vote.
I don't quite understand what they are talking about. I keep asking for information, but nobody can answer.
The race is not even close (at this point) anymore. People here keep posting cherry picked general election polling results, new phone app results, "unskewed" polling results, and online polls etc because they are then able to ignore the reality of the the Electoral Map. The electoral map currently shows Hillary at 273-302 to start. State polling averages also shows her ahead in every single swing state. Think about that...all of them.
A great deal of the GOP won't be voting for Trump at all this election. Never in my life have I seen so many prominent members of a political party speak against their own-it's unprecedented. Hillary essentially takes all of the minority votes.
Absentee voting starts soon, and most people have already made up their minds. The debates will be the final blow to Trump. I'm sure some of these half wits will celebrate his Jr. High narrative and punchlines, but it will only sour more people at the end of the day. Unless something incredible is released from Wikileaks, Hillary Clinton will be the new POTUS.
Based on the trajectory and what I see today, I'd bet she picks up 323-347 EVs.
#1624 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
Another article from the liberal Huff Post saying basically the same thing.
The Liberal Huffington post isn't making this claim. They are writing an article about a conservative who who is. Hardly a shocker, it's what all Republicans say now that Obama is president. Again, were any of you applying this metric to prior presidents? Of course not.
#1625 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
Yes, but as it's been pointed out several times, you're simply changing the metric to arrive at your talking points. What somebody "Feels like" is completely irrelevant when it pertains to economic data. Likewise, this method was not applied to any President prior by the GOP, only Obama. Why is this?
And of course numbers don't tell "the entire story." Nobody has ever made the argument that they do.
#1626 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
ID really believes the unemployment rate is 4.9%.
You guys are so strange. It's like some sort of alternate universe you exist in.
Science has a "liberal bias". Economic numbers are only to believed by rubes. Polling data can't be trusted. Long form birth certificates ONLY.
On and on you all go...
#1627 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
Some people choose to look at real life instead of manufactured numbers ID. You should try looking around you instead of believing everything you're told. Granted I have more insight into the job market than most, but still...anyone with 2 eyes can see how many are unemployed or underemployed. Anyone with 2 eyes can see that many of the jobs created are shitty jobs, but hey, you keep pushing your numbers that say everything is great.
I"m sure you'd be saying the same thing if Romney was POTUS and UE was @ 5%. Right?
#1628 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
Lol... You are lucky John KASICH didn't win the nomination. This would be an epic beat down. Why is it he doesn't have all the baggage Hilary does? Cause he isn't shady as fuck. And there is too much smoke for none of this Hillary stuff to be true. Be objective and realize she is a snake and we all know this. It doesn't mean she would be a "bad" president. I think she would be much better than Obama actually. Obama is likely the worst president since Jimmy Carter, but, he is a cool cat which is why most ignore his short comings. He is a great orator, good looking, funny, shoots hoops. I like everything about him except his political beliefs.
You didn't answer my question.
#1629 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
Instead, CNN, NY Times, WaPo, etc are merely only one of many voices twittering about, and fact-checking is easier to do than ever. Hillary and her media dogs spend millions on messaging, while all Donald has to do is send a tweet and his narrative is immediately absorbed. Furthermore, in terms of numbers, she has a gang of bullies on social media, while we have amassed an army. Take a look at Reddit sometime if you don’t believe me.
The media is run by extremely clever people who know what they are doing. Their onslaught against Donald will almost certainly have some scratching their heads about what is going on with the campaign, and why Donald seems, for once, to be on the defensive.
All I will say to that is, there is a plan. There is a strategy. There is a method at work here. When the enemy has you surrounded—that only means there’s no way for them to escape. We are right where we want to be in August.
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#1630 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 534 weeks ago
— ”California, who you voting for?” Trump got 55%, compared to 45% for Clinton. In the latest Public Policy Institute of California poll, Clinton has a 16-point advantage over Trump, 46% to 30%.
Even though I did initially believe he could take CA if he focused on it, I find that hard to believe. He's barely campaigned here at all. Yeah people see him on TV/social media on a daily basis but this strategy of just sound bites and not actually discussing issues isn't going to work in the long run...not when it comes to specific states. You mentioned the Hitler-Goebbels strategy earlier and while it certainly works in specific situations, telling huge lies repeatedly until they become truth isn't going to win him CA, OH, FL, PA, etc. The fact that his statements are so obscene(Obama founded ISIS, have Americans tried in military courts, etc.) isn't doing him any favors. He went from "telling it like it is"(his initial appeal) to "telling it like it isn't" awfully damn quick.
He's not willing to do any real campaigning. GOing on TV calling Hillary a liar or tweeting that Ted Cruz is a loser isn't going to cut the mustard.
If he wanted to win the presidency based on sound bites, slogans, and feel good rhetoric, he should have studied the 1984 election but even then its not the same.....Reagan had the advantage of being the incumbent and insanely popular.....even among democrats.
As I suspected a couple of months back, Trump doesn't have a clue of how to run a national campaign or what he's up against with the Clinton machine. What worked in the primary wasn't going to cut it for the General. For instance in Florida Trump currently only has one field office set up. By this point in the game the GOP candidate usually has about a dozen offices in the Sunshine state. Think about how important Florida is, and he's got...one office with three months to go. In the meantime he's been focusing on states he has zero chance in, such as...Connecticut.
