^^ Yeah, the DOW nearly tripled under Obama but it has no possibility of still rising during his 1st year out of office

SLC Yeah I think Donnie Jr's next, and it'll happen soon. Although, I think it's possibly Mueller waits until a new Congress sits so Trump can be checked if he does some form over Saturday night massacre during a break in session. Trump might get into a bit of a pickle because if he pardons him right away, he'll likely be set for impeachment pretty quick, I don't know all the legalities & processes for that, but if it can be fairly fast, he'd be helpless if more charges are brought to other people, including "Individual #1".  I think Pence as VP could be iffy, it's not unreasonable to think he 'could' be proven to have had knowledge of this. If anything, he could have a short run & pardon everyone else, then go. Or just ride out a crappy Gerald Ford like Presidency for 18 months while 2020 candidates run.

At best, Trump pardons a few people & goes. At worst, this becomes Treason. Running for President while working with a foreign country to establish your own business presence in their country & make millions off of it, in return for political favors favorable to said foreign country that may not be beneficial to America in any way, is probably one of the worst case of Treason in our nations history.

I think this will be a formative time to the GOP. It'll set the back for a decade & I think they'll likely reinvent themselves as more moderate & reasonable. They've been clawing at some elections since 2008 & Trump's absurdness & now illegalities will just be a punch in the gut to them. They need to get away from the ridiculousness & have more of a mainstream stance. With PC outta control, Christmas songs being banned, #metoo, there's room for a common sense agenda. "Lock Her Up", "Build That Wall" & "Jobs Jobs Jobs" (from a entire family profiting overseas) weren't it, and just a "Anyone But A Democrat/Hillary" stance.

I just wanna gauge something real quick:  Is pardoning your son who committed crimes while working on your own election campaign a hands-down, stone cold lock for impeachment?

Cause I think that's where this is going. (Among other things, possibly worse)

Bigbri yeah. I tried to pm you but kept getting an error msg. Recorded it for ya & my brother
Great guy, played at basically a bar, even came down during a song and was giving hi fives. Quite a fall from grace from playing arenas to a corner bar, Heavens Edge had a venue full of approx 1,000. Doesnt get to him tho, I get the impression he isnt good with and doesnt care about the business side of things. Great talent tho, they had some hits.

My terminology wasn't precise, but I was on my phone & don't like typing as much on it. What I meant tho was that SG had a valid point, and I think moreso than yours, in that I'd venture to guess (although I don't K-N-O-W) that the economic impact of Fed rate hikes is possibly moreso felt via Corporate and large scale/short term lending (Think Google's, Comcasts, Apple's, Best Buys etc) let alone Home Building/Construction & large family owned businesses rather than individual home loans & car notes. I mean, it does affect us, and our spending habits and stimulating the economy, but it wouldn't surprise me if the former had a more drastic impact on the economy. Just think how it impacts companies decisionmaking towards hiring alone.

Still, you're comeback was golden.