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#1661 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Watch his statement. It's a joke for christ sake.

I agree it's a 'joke', but man.  Siding with a foreign country over hacking is pretty close to encouraging espionage.  Are we not sane here??


His whole campaign is just comical. I think in time his ego, quick talking & wittiness will just get the best of him.  Then again, I've said that since September.


Joke or not, Loose lips sink ships. Is this the guy who is going to be privy to highly classified intel?

Trump isn't capable of not running his mouth. Knee Jerk is all he knows.

#1662 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

Trump sure fucked up with this one.

'Treason'? Critics savage Trump over Russia hack comments

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/t … z4FeSxCBDT

#1663 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Latest polls are 3 weeks old though. He's been trending upwards all of July.

GE polling is not the same as state polling. And, if the argument is being made that these states are on play, I'd like to see evidence of that.

Also for both candidates, I wouldn't pay too much attention to new polling numbers during the conventions. I'd imagine we'll get some bumps, then the smoke will clear.

#1664 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

I don't understand all this talk about Wisconsin and Pennsylvania being up for grabs. Polling shows Hillary ahead in both. Yes her average in PA is just about the margin of error, but her last poll she was up 9 points on Trump.

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#1665 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

James, I've used 270towin before but can't get the god damned maps to embed. How did you do it?

I just save the image then upload via tiny pic or something similar.

#1666 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

This is the Electoral Map based on current RCP polling averages. I only applied states that were outside the margin of error (3 points in this case.)

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#1667 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

I think it's funny when a particular segment of Americans get upset about outsiders giving their opinion on our political process or candidates. Considering most of them overwhelmingly supported the invasion of Iraq and subsequent "rebuild" (cough-cough-tax payer funded corporate give away.)

Not to mention the decades of global meddling, such as overthrowing a democratically elected leader in Iran and installing the Shah (wonder why they hate us?)

If we want your opinion, we'll ask for it.

- 'Murica

#1668 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 537 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

Stats can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say.  The recovery had already started when he took over, but economic statistics always lag.   The problem is that people don't understand anything other than what they are told, which is often wrong.

The unemployment numbers are way, way off. They changed the rules halfway through to make them look good. Things are getting better now finally, but they were awful most of his presidency. Awful.

Great explain to us then. Explain how the data is flawed.

In particular explain to us how UE reporting was "Changed." The only people I see changing how UE is reported is the GOP, who can't stand low percentages on Obama's watch. They certainly didn't apply this new metric to anybody else prior, only Obama.

#1669 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 538 weeks ago

From 270 to win, based on current polling data. As I suspected Hillary has roughly 240 EVs walking in the door. Notice Trump's weak numbers in otherwise deep red states.

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#1670 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 538 weeks ago

Polling averages in swing states. I listed numbers as Hillary/Trump

Michigan 43/37
Iowa 42/38
Ohio 42/41 (Latest 44/40)
Co 44/36
Fl 44/41 (Latest Fl poll was 44/37)
NC 45/42 (Latest poll was 44/38)
VA 42/37
PA 45/40 (Latest was 45/36)
Wisc 45/38
NV 45/44 (Latest 45/41)

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