Don't worry about it Gunslinger, when Obama is announced the victor at the end of the night, you'll be strapped into the coaster.

So deal with it, or move to France.

Dude you way undervaluing Chris Pitman, as people continue to do.

This man is as much GN'R as Axl Rose is. His contributions to this album surpass Bucket, and even Paul Huge. People always have disgarded Chris as the "8th member", but in reality he was as much of a driving force on this album as Axl.

As for that earlier poster talking about BP's connections... his connections at their absolute most, is having contact with Mr. Rose's housekeeper.

If these liner notes are not final, then it further confirms that this was orchestrated band leak, for fans to download, read, critique, and then GN'R will go back and make the appropriate corrections.

Don't be shocked when you get the final version if the typos are corrected, there's two band photos, and a roster check...

GUNS N' ROSES
Vocals - W. Axl Rose
Guitars - Robin Finck, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal
Rhythm Guitar - Richard Fortus
Bass - Tommy Stinson
Drums - Frank Ferrer
Keys - Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman

They also need to make a point of saying Guns N' Roses thanks the fans, who've put up with them through all the fucking shit, and Axl's thanks needs to omit Jarmo & Eric. Don't thank anyone from the internet, it'll just breed more hate.

Nice post Randall, problem is, it's really a radical neo-Con opinion, not rooted in any kind of realism.

I'll be voting for Obama tomorrow, and not be scared doing it.

If anything happens to this great country, we call the U.S.A. If we go socialist, we go marxist, we basically become the U.S.S.A.

Blame can be placed at the doorstep of one group of people - corporate America. They've stolen from the poor for years to make themselves richer (they earned, that's a fuckin' laugh), and elitist Republicans who continue to spew absolute nonsense about "trickle down economics" are Reagan Republicans who are a dying breed, that don't quite understand they're over. The Republicans are NOT responsible for this, BUT because they hitched their wagon to the "free market" drum a long time ago, they will be dragged down and drowned with the banks.

Now you might be able to convince me, how i'm wrong. I'm willing to listen. But the average American isn't. They look at gas, they look at milk, they look at their retirement in danger, and they blame one thing - an un-supervised free market. Out of control capitalism is the reason I can't afford my next payment n' such.

Now I could find a few things wrong with that statement. But that's how they see it. Tomorrow, Obama is going to be elected the next president of the United States, and the reason that's going to happen is people are tired and fed up. Is Obama the answer? I don't know. But Americans blindly accepting this socialization with "open arms" is not their fault. It's not the government's fault. It's wall street's fault. Period. That's how they see it, that's how they are going to see it, because they don't know the in's and out's of it all. They just know what they see, and most aren't going to want to look further into it, because it might mean they have to get off their fat ass and do something about it. No, we couldn't have that happen, could we?

To have the attitude you have to out of work peoples, is amazingly ignorant. Unemployment only registers those who are... on unemployment. There's countless people I know who are unemployed, can't get work, not registered with the unemployment office, and haven't filed a tax return in years. Do they count? Or are they just tax-beating bums that need to get a job? (just to let you know, if you don't make anything, you don't have to file)

The numbers you see are only the numbers they want you to see.

But regardless, at this point, i'm like alot of Americans. I don't give a fuck anymore. Let's go socialist. Let's go communist. 1984, blah blah blah, i've heard it over and over.

Capitalism is a roting, maggot-riddled corpse.

Ron is right. Scraped, Sorry & This I Love are going to blow people away, especially the latter two.

Scraped is growing on me, but i'm already convinced Sorry & This I Love are instant-masterpieces.

And see that also creates an interesting twist in the saga bucketfan. Going on 'insider heresay', they weren't close at all in 2006, despite a presentation as the album's release was imminent. Bucket was basically begged to return, but turned it down, remaining that he would not return until the album is out.

At this point, if GN'R tour with the intent to support this album, I would be shocked with Bucket & Brain not on board. If they were truely trying to sell this as a band, you'd want your big contributors there. Dizzy & Chris are already there, and it's understandable that Paul wouldn't return because of his personal choice with touring.

If GN'R hit the road in 2009 to support this album, sans Bucket & Brain, I will assume the ones in their place will be Slash & Matt Sorum... not touring at all to support CD, but instead a reunion tour. Honestly.

The silence, and absolute 'crickets chirping' of the GN'R camp with this album a couple weeks away, is stunning to say the least. Considering the fact the liner notes have no 'band' photos, but simply a roster check of all the contributors over the last 10 years, is even more bizarre. Robin is off with NIN, Richard is doing other things, Tommy seems to have disconnected. Nothing right now seems like GN'R are just going to bust out and start doing press, start doing late night shows, maybe some New Year's shows in Vegas. Nothing like that at all seems to be on the horizon.

It also gives more creedence to the theory that this is a "new GN'R best of". The remaining songs will be reworked, or saved for a box set one day.

I know people don't like to hear the reunion shit, I get it, but I truely thought that this band would unearth itself when we knew the album was FINALLY on the way. Axl would start doing interviews, GN'R would be all over the place, t'd be a fun time, and the new band would actually be getting the wheels on the road for the first time in it's existance.

Nothing.

It's as dead silent in the GN'R camp right now, as it was from 2003-2005. Which is shocking with the biggest albatross of their existance about to be lifted in two and a half weeks.

And then of course there's always the chance that the band will not tour, no form, the album will not be supported, it'll just be dropped in stores, and Axl will take himself & the GN'R name and go dark for another decade. But I think that's a real long shot. Irving Azoff would not be on board if that was GNR's future, even if he was just brought in to deliver an album, in theory.