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#16811 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R/CD Promotion Materials » 940 weeks ago
I think one of the issues is the fact that they need some kind of 'band' performance of picture in the advert, it would make it alot better.
But see they don't want to let the world know completely it's a different band.
Seriously.
They still want that little thing in the back of the casual buyer that it's Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy, etc.
Thus the reason the few new GN'R adverts, and publicity photos ALWAYS feature Axl at the main forefront. How many photos did you ever see that was on GNR.com that featured just the band, minus-Axl? I don't remember any.
And I defend the album the way I do, because musically - it's EXTEMELY good. I think the wait and the anticipation is so high at this point, that it's bound to fail, and people will not give it the credit it deserves.
I truely believe by the time it's said and done and the FINAL versions really sink into our skin... this will be another GN'R masterpiece to rack on the board.
#16812 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Horror Movie You've Seen.... » 940 weeks ago
Yeah, it was supposed to be an absolute nightmare. Not only did he not want to write it, he did it for the money, wrote it, then when production got underway, Carpenter & the late Debra Hill hired green-director Rick Rosenthal, who was terrible at directing, and Carpenter had to 'uncredited' go back and direct quite a bit of Rosenthal's stuff.
Carpenter also went back and re-did the editing, after the film was done, because the choppiness was horrible. If you've ever seen the TV cut of Halloween II - that was Rosenthal's cut. The theatrical one that got released was Carpenter's salvage job. Thus the reason Halloween II, by the time it was all said and done, felt quite a bit like the same atmosphere of the original, probably the closest of any of the sequels.
In hind-sight, Carpenter shouldn't hate the film as much as he does. For horror films, it's quite possibly the best 'direct-sequel' ever made. It's a very good film imo.
#16813 Re: The Garden » Palin's Prank call from Fake French President » 940 weeks ago
I laughed my ass off at this.
I guess some Canadians actually are funny.
#16814 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 940 weeks ago
D, your inbox is full.
#16815 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago
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From everything we've read, been told, even by Axl himself & his friends, Axl is very emotional and very sensative. Not the norm for a man. Slash, who was once considered a very close friend, for the history to have happened the way it happened, it is not far-fetched to believe that Axl is extremely hurt by this, and has been for years. He also probably feels lied to and lied about on countless occasions, something that it's only natural to take personal, and for a guy like Axl, this would be the volume elevated to 10 on taking it personal.
This I Love is about unrequited love imo, in the same vein of Don't Cry, November Rain & Estranged.
But Sorry seems to have Slash rant written all over it. I wouldn't be shocked if it were about Duff, considering the opinions given by Axl in that 2002 interview/press release that appeared on the old GNR.com site, but I would think it's a high-possibility it's about Slash.
I know you were just being a smart ass about the 'homosexual' thing, but I can honestly say that if I had had a very close personal friend, a bandmate, that I trusted, admired and respected for many years, and then suddenly what I thought they were changed to something else, and they seemingly turned on me and went everywhere talking major shit and major shit about me publicly in the press, I would see it as a HUGE betrayal of trust, i'd be very hurt, and yes I might start writing music as a way to vent that frustration.
#16816 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R/CD Promotion Materials » 940 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:I think alot of people are giving the commercials the same grief, they give the album.
People thought this marketing push for years would be some big thing. The promos are FINE.
They're just not the big epic things people built up in their heads all these years.
What do people expect? A 30 minute informercial with Billy Mays telling us how great CD is, and how it can cure cancer?
I don't know. I just think some of these "fans" set themselves up for disappointment.
Maybe they were expecting one of those "all night" Time Life Music infomercials hosted by Peter Fonda.
It makes me curious as to what they thought they were going to get. I've never seen a music album get a massive TV push. It's mostly targeted with radio... why... because it's MUSIC.
I think for years people thought this would have the anticipation of The Dark Knight or Spider-Man 2.... instead... it's just another album coming out. High-profile, yes, because of the name Guns N' Roses, but the hype around CD is probably only a little more than Metallica's Death Magnetic, which was average. The only reason CD has the "slight extra" hype it has now, is because of it's mythical legend.
#16817 Re: Guns N' Roses » (OLD NEWS!)The Limewire Leaks Discussion » 940 weeks ago
I've got Scraped with no sounds or skips at all just some background fuzz. Like listening to the radio.
Side note: Listen to the lyrics in Sorry. Who thinks it's possibly about the fans and the media?
My personal opinion...
Shackler's Revenge - is about the fans. I don't know if it's a pure out attack, but it's certaintly for a "chosen few".
Don't ever
Try to tell me
How much you care for me
Don't ever
Try to tell me
How much you were there for me
I don't believe there's a reason
I don't believe it
I don't believe there's a reason
I don't believe it
No one is stoppin' you
From doin what you want to do
No one is stoppin you now
Stoppin' you now
Street of Dreams - is about Stephanie Seymour. All of the lyrics.
Scraped - I think is actually a pro-fan, pro-listener song, almost the opposite of Shackler's. I think this song is actually kind of a "give 'em hell" anthem. Never give it up, keep fighting the good fight, kind of song. And balancing that with depression. One moment you feel like a beaten dog, and the next minute you remember YOU'RE the king. You can do anything you accomplish your mind to.
Sorry - is totally about Slash imo.
Madagascar - is about it all as a whole. Whether it be Slash, Steph, the media, bad fans, haters, whatever... I won't be told anymore, that i've been brought down in this storm.
This I Love - I think this is another 'unrequited love' song, not really about anyone in particular. There are parts of this song that could be interpreted to be about Steph, Slash or hell Erin. I really think this was originally the song that was supposed to be sandwiched in-between November Rain & Estranged. This was supposed to be 'Part III' of the Trilogy. Thus the whole 'Estranged is Part IV of the Trilogy' little play on words.
#16818 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R/CD Promotion Materials » 940 weeks ago
I think alot of people are giving the commercials the same grief, they give the album.
People thought this marketing push for years would be some big thing. The promos are FINE.
They're just not the big epic things people built up in their heads all these years.
#16819 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 940 weeks ago
Yeah, we're really starting to see that the delays seemed to be more based on personal issues for Axl than any attempt at making "the perfect record". Like you guys pointed out, these vocals are as old as the saga itself.
We get all this information, and it creates more questions than it gives answers.
Other than a few odd and end things, nothing jumps out as being massively different.
This album was done in 2001, if not earlier.
This whole thing just gets more bizarre.
Why not release the album then? Nothing in the musical landscape, especially rock has changed that much. The album would've probably been better received then, especially songs like CD, If The World, & Madagascar, which are very rooted in the late-90's.
Now, even this "new" material, is going to feel dated.
I wonder if Axl actually did redo the vocals over and over so much, that he eventually decided to just keep the original take, lol.
At this point, with everything Geffen/Universal has been put through with this record, he better pull a reunion out of his ass, seems to me if they find out this record was done for that long and he just sat over it like a hen over an egg - "just cause" - they're gonna suuuuueeeeeeee his ASS, if this album doesn't hit and hit big.
#16820 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Liner Note Discussions *EXTREME SPOILERS* » 940 weeks ago
The credits are insane. I was looking forward to this more than the album. Now we finally know who does what. And Jarmo gets thanked. Where's James's name in the thank yous?
Yeah, I kind of did a double take on that. Apparently licking Axl's ass, and being a fuckin' nazi to regular true GN'R fans on the internet, gets you thanked in the liner notes.
Gay
Good job Axl. You should've just not thanked ANYONE from the fuckin' internet.
Plus, does anyone else have a problem that ONLY RON (props to Ron) thanked the fans? You know the ones that kept the fuckin' band alive since 1995?
Cool to see Izzy gets thanked.
And in closing (of my opinions), with the several lack of 'info' in these liner notes, other than credits & lyrics (which is cool, don't get me wrong), does anyone else think that a "reunion" is still that far from a possibility?
It's starting to look more and more like this is a new-GN'R "best of", and that this band is dead. With no talking, no interviews, nothing, nothing to annouce support for this record, half the band is gone... what else should I think?
James said it best, this seems "thrown together". Certaintly not something that smacks as the "first album of four".
After reading the liner notes, hearing the leaks... all of this saga feels like it's coming to a CLOSE. To a FINALE. CLOSURE. Nothing about any of this feels like 'the beginning of the beginning'.
jmho
