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#1691 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 516 weeks ago
Wow.
#1692 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 516 weeks ago
I read through the documents (quickly) as well. None were classified as child porn that I saw. They claimed most of it was for "Grooming purposes."
There were books with nude children, but it was under the context of nudity in general, men/women/children. Lots of "barely legal" mags, trannies, gay stuff (adult men), and S&M themed porn. There were photos of children, but the detectives still didn't define them as child pornography. I couldn't find anything about animal torture or gore. Not that there wasn't, I went through it pretty quickly and my eyes were getting tired.
If it's an accurate report it seemed he was smart enough to keep his child nudity to more "art" based books that were quite a bit older. That way he could probably claim he was a collector of vintage nudes etc. My guess anyway...
The whole thing is weird.
#1693 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 516 weeks ago
Update (June 21, 10:10 A.M.): A representative from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department gave Vanity Fair the following statement regarding the documents:
Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff’s Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff’s Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources. The Sheriff’s Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff’s Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense.
#1694 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 516 weeks ago
What I don't get is why he wasn't prosecuted for having that stuff itself.
Like I get the cases involving molesting the children would be hard to prove and he has a lot of money.
But surely it's an offence itself to have stuff like child porn and animal torture things and so on in itself.
It could be how they collected the material? Perhaps he had lawyers who were able to go through everything with a fine tooth comb and declare it inadmissible?
#1695 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 516 weeks ago
Police reports from the 2003 investigation of Michael Jackson for child molestation have surfaced, and they paint a disturbing portrait of the late pop icon.
According to the reports, which were obtained by Radar Online, Jackson's Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara, California was reportedly found to have been filled with child pornography, as well as violent images of animal torture and S&M practices. The reports also make mention of materials in which there was "morphing" of children's faces onto adult bodies.
The reports come from a police raid of the ranch in November of 2003. In the aftermath, Jackson was charged with seven counts of child molestation and two counts of giving an intoxicant to a minor. According to Radar, the reports include mention of materials "of children bleeding, in pain and tormented."
Ron Zonen, a former Santa Barbra D.A. who worked to prosecute Jackson, told Radar: "A lot of this stuff was used to desensitize the children." Despite the alleged stack of evidence against him, Jackson was acquitted at trial in 2005. He died four years later, in 2009.
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/21/r … /21399184/
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Horrifying.
I knew he was disturbed but that is bat shit crazy, mentally deranged territory. Not surprising in the least that he couldn't get any sleep.
People have defended him for years. Is this when they'll stop pretending he's innocent?
I read this earlier today..but it just linked back to Radar Online. I didn't know what that was, and it appeared to be just a gossip site. I didn't really see anything that confirmed the story. Oddly enough these types of sites have gone from total jokes (when we were young) to be the first to break stories on celebrities.
I just checked back and it now links to the Santa Barbara sheriff's report.
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploa … j-docs.pdf
This guy was evil.
#1696 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 516 weeks ago
Trump has taken a dive in the polls. Hillary currently has a 7 point spread when you average polling data. That's well above the margin of error.
Republicans are getting anxious.
Hillary's war chest is enormous compared to Trump right now. 42 M raised vs 1.3 M.
Not surprisingly, as I had guessed, he appears to be having trouble running a national campaign. He needs help, and he needs to take advice quick, or this is all over. His claim is that he is able to run this lean n' mean, and that's how he would run government. But I suspect that's BS. Oddly he doesn't seem to be paying much attention to swing states. (By comparison Hillary is unleashing heavy ads in those areas starting now.)
Part of me wonders if he knows he's not cut out for the job and is trying to self destruct at this point. He sure doesn't seem like he wants the gig. The convention is going to be fun, and boy O'boy so is the rest of this election.
#1697 Re: The Garden » Terrorist Attack @ Pulse in Orlando » 517 weeks ago
Oh, please. The ONLY classified information they could find was that she received an email that stated she needed to make a condolence call over the death of a foreign leader. There was never a law against using a personal server. No laws were broken. Colin Powell, Rice and Dick Cheney, and literally thousands of government cabinet workers have used personal emails with classified information, so until you right wingers start demanding retroactive prosecution for them, shut up already. Right Wingers are blowing $13,000 per day in tax dollars in order to investigate her. They have spent over $200 million investigating her since 1999. Good job. Money well spent.
Nary a peep from them about the (baker's) dozen "Benghazis" during Bush's tenure either...wonder why that is?
#1698 Re: The Garden » Terrorist Attack @ Pulse in Orlando » 517 weeks ago
The 2 brothers in Boston did not have Assult rifles and were able to kill 3 and hurt 300. Should we ban pressure cookers??
The primary use by pressure cookers 99.9% of the time is to cook food. While the primary use of a gun is to kill people. Although that's completely irrelevant since....
I'm really tired of this dishonest argument too. One side says more regulation is needed, and the right side of the aisle asks why they want to ban all guns.
Are conservatives incapable of reading English?
Or maybe math? As we can see, a gun allows asshole terrorists to kill people much more efficiently (and subsequently many more) than with a rigged pressure cooker. Therefore, people are advocating regulation/background checks that would make it more difficult for dickheads like this to murder Americans. The same thing Obama said last week.
Why is this basic concept so difficult to get through the thick skulls of conservatives?
#1699 Re: The Garden » Terrorist Attack @ Pulse in Orlando » 518 weeks ago
It was just as much a hate crime as terror attack. He chose them for a reason.
Was almost worse...
I just read this. Another screwball with easy access to an arsenal of weapons. Thank Gawd they caught this asshole. He was clearly planning on mass carnage at the parade.
#1700 Re: The Garden » Terrorist Attack @ Pulse in Orlando » 518 weeks ago
I was born in Ft. Pierce and raised around there. So sad. Let's leave the conservative bullshit, irrational Obama hate out of it.
There are a few immediate ironies that come to mind. The first is that we should anticipate the liberals will make this political immediately ( Hello? Are you reading your own posts?) Second is that we should be upset at any perceived semantics by the press, while keeping close tabs on how Obama speaks in regards to this event and attack him immediately if he doesn't use words we deem appropriate. And finally that we're all Americans, unless these Americans want to get married, serve in the military or raise kids.
I knew he was disturbed but that is bat shit crazy, mentally deranged territory. Not surprising in the least that he couldn't get any sleep.