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#1691 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 540 weeks ago
Trump will win....
I'm tellin' 'ya.
Bet me some money!
Last week I won 29 bucks and then 15 on penny slots. I'm feelin' lucky.
#1692 Re: The Garden » How Realistic Do You Think A 3rd World War Is? » 541 weeks ago
When I was growing up in the 80s there was constant undertone of fear...would we go to war with Russia? Nuclear weapons and so on...
My Mom worked for the foreign service many years before my birth and had the fortune of working in embassies around the world. It was of her opinion that WW 3 with Russia was highly unlikely during that time. She always said her main concern was some nutcase getting their hands on nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Looking back on that statement, I find it mirrors my sentiments today. That would be my primary concern way before any WW 3 type scenario happening. The old gal may be a PITA, but she was right about stuff like this IMO.
#1693 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 541 weeks ago
Along with other "red" states moving toward blue, there's this. Donald Trump only leads Hillary by 7 points in Texas. That's insane. There's now way she'll win Texas, but to be that close shows how terrible a candidate Trump is.
AZ is awash in Red, yet he holds a lead that is almost within the margin of error.
Likewise earlier this month in Utah he TIED with Hillary at 35%, with Gary Johnson picking up 13%.
63% of Utah Mormons also had an unfavorable view of Trump.
Conservatives in the upper echelons of the GOP hierarchy have not only dismissed Trump over the last week or so, but have left the GOP altogether.
#1694 Re: Guns N' Roses » 26/6/16 FEDEX FIELD, WASHINGTON, DC UNITED STATES » 541 weeks ago
Impressive. I never thought they could fill 'em up like this.
#1695 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 541 weeks ago
Wow.
#1696 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 542 weeks ago
I read through the documents (quickly) as well. None were classified as child porn that I saw. They claimed most of it was for "Grooming purposes."
There were books with nude children, but it was under the context of nudity in general, men/women/children. Lots of "barely legal" mags, trannies, gay stuff (adult men), and S&M themed porn. There were photos of children, but the detectives still didn't define them as child pornography. I couldn't find anything about animal torture or gore. Not that there wasn't, I went through it pretty quickly and my eyes were getting tired.
If it's an accurate report it seemed he was smart enough to keep his child nudity to more "art" based books that were quite a bit older. That way he could probably claim he was a collector of vintage nudes etc. My guess anyway...
The whole thing is weird.
#1697 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 542 weeks ago
Update (June 21, 10:10 A.M.): A representative from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department gave Vanity Fair the following statement regarding the documents:
Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff’s Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff’s Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources. The Sheriff’s Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff’s Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense.
#1698 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 542 weeks ago
What I don't get is why he wasn't prosecuted for having that stuff itself.
Like I get the cases involving molesting the children would be hard to prove and he has a lot of money.
But surely it's an offence itself to have stuff like child porn and animal torture things and so on in itself.
It could be how they collected the material? Perhaps he had lawyers who were able to go through everything with a fine tooth comb and declare it inadmissible?
#1699 Re: The Garden » Michael Jackson's home contained child pornography, animal torture » 542 weeks ago
Police reports from the 2003 investigation of Michael Jackson for child molestation have surfaced, and they paint a disturbing portrait of the late pop icon.
According to the reports, which were obtained by Radar Online, Jackson's Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara, California was reportedly found to have been filled with child pornography, as well as violent images of animal torture and S&M practices. The reports also make mention of materials in which there was "morphing" of children's faces onto adult bodies.
The reports come from a police raid of the ranch in November of 2003. In the aftermath, Jackson was charged with seven counts of child molestation and two counts of giving an intoxicant to a minor. According to Radar, the reports include mention of materials "of children bleeding, in pain and tormented."
Ron Zonen, a former Santa Barbra D.A. who worked to prosecute Jackson, told Radar: "A lot of this stuff was used to desensitize the children." Despite the alleged stack of evidence against him, Jackson was acquitted at trial in 2005. He died four years later, in 2009.
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/21/r … /21399184/
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Horrifying.
I knew he was disturbed but that is bat shit crazy, mentally deranged territory. Not surprising in the least that he couldn't get any sleep.
People have defended him for years. Is this when they'll stop pretending he's innocent?
I read this earlier today..but it just linked back to Radar Online. I didn't know what that was, and it appeared to be just a gossip site. I didn't really see anything that confirmed the story. Oddly enough these types of sites have gone from total jokes (when we were young) to be the first to break stories on celebrities.
I just checked back and it now links to the Santa Barbara sheriff's report.
http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploa … j-docs.pdf
This guy was evil.
#1700 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 542 weeks ago
Trump has taken a dive in the polls. Hillary currently has a 7 point spread when you average polling data. That's well above the margin of error.
Republicans are getting anxious.
Hillary's war chest is enormous compared to Trump right now. 42 M raised vs 1.3 M.
Not surprisingly, as I had guessed, he appears to be having trouble running a national campaign. He needs help, and he needs to take advice quick, or this is all over. His claim is that he is able to run this lean n' mean, and that's how he would run government. But I suspect that's BS. Oddly he doesn't seem to be paying much attention to swing states. (By comparison Hillary is unleashing heavy ads in those areas starting now.)
Part of me wonders if he knows he's not cut out for the job and is trying to self destruct at this point. He sure doesn't seem like he wants the gig. The convention is going to be fun, and boy O'boy so is the rest of this election.
I knew he was disturbed but that is bat shit crazy, mentally deranged territory. Not surprising in the least that he couldn't get any sleep.