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#1701 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

Chris Christie was on This Week on ABC & asked 'Why didn't Trump pardon Manafort?' (last month). Christie responded 'It would be politically impossible.'

Christie, a former federal prosecutor probably knows the law on this pretty well. So, with that said, no, it seems a President cannot pardon a state conviction. No one questioned his answer. The host (George S must be off this week) then stated Hannity (lol) put out there on the radio Trump will soon consider firing Mueller. All guests believed it was just rhetoric & if Trump did that it would lead to impeachment, but that maybe Hannity sometimes puts feelers out there to guage responses of what Trump might want to do in the future. Still seems unlikely.

2 seemingly republican people, lawyer types didn't catch their names, were asked if this is the final stage of the investigation. Unfortunately both gave pretty ambiguous answers, one sorta said no & the other the 'end of the beginning' (gosh I hope not). Personally, I think Manafort is the big fish & the final one. Hopefully solid stuff comes out by the end of the year. (Not for any political/change of party reasons, just its been long already & I am growing tired of this wait. He's guilty as shit, lets get him out of office & Pence too if he's even tangibly tied up in it)

#1702 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Can you explain how any of those tie to the election?

Did you miss the part about working with Russia to leak stolen emails from the DNC database they hacked into?  Either paid $$ or pro-quid-pro (this for that)?  You don't think that would get Donald removed from office if it comes out?

Remember way back Trump sent a crazy tweet about "Just found out Obama wiretapped Trump Tower". You know why he tweeted that? Cause he was told during a Nat'l Security briefing that during the course of the investigation into who hacked into the emails, the Trump campaign team entered in and was in contact with the hackers, working to obtain their release.

Mr ID yeah I agree,, in fact I think the NY charges are a preemptive measure to limit Trumps capabilities of evading this issue by pardoning/firing all.

Randall, I don't think there needs to be 'court precedence' (sounds like a Hannity term anyway) for a President NOT to be able to pardon a state conviction. It's just not within their scope of authority.

Maybe they wouldn't be able to charge him with the same charges if he is charged on Federal level, I would think that would be Double Jeopardy, I'm not sure. Still, if NY charges anybody they are SOL to Trumps pardon power.

#1703 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

Part of me wonders if the whole '2-3 year investigation' is due to National Security in itself, in that they need to drop little bits of info, and leak to the public slowly what happened. If on January 22 or Novemeber 9th or whatever they came out & said "Oops, uh Donald J Trump had illegal contacts with Russian spies and paid for the hacked DNC emails to be released, and we have recorded phone calls of them, and emails & texts, uhmmm he's not going to be your President"  The public would be in the streets rioting, from both sides. This way, unraveling it slowly, and only removing him from office for the final 2 or 1 years seems less 'unfair' to the winners (GOP) and losers (Dems, as they would be upset a GOP stays in office as opposed to Hillary).

Could be taking a line from the Nixon investigation, where the country had just been getting over riots & protest & antitrust of the government over Vietnam. They probably didn't want to nail him overnight, so they leaked it slowly before laying down on him (to which he resigned).

Man tho, if Sessions is found guilty or to have been pretty seriously involved in this, the whole country will become a shitshow. There's talk that Pence's nod as VP was a Manafort thing too. I think Speaker of the House (Ryan) is 3rd in line of sucession, however I heard that's only in the case of death, not removal/resignation etc.

#1704 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

When not a single person connected to Trump has been charged with anything related to the election, when all the conspiracy nuts are proven wrong time and time again, that’s when a rational person acknowledges it’s all a farce.

Right, none 22

Manafort - Russia
Flynn - Russia
Papadopolous - Russia
Gates - Russia
Cohen - Finance Violations
Page - Admitted ties to Russia. Even visited Moscow while working for Trump campaign
Lewandowski - Claimed to not know Page, later admitted to knowing him.

I'm sure the investigation is just gonna end up being for some rando, not Donald J roll

#1705 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Manafort is guilty as fuck. But none of it has anything to do with the election or anything the SC was tasked to investigate.

How can you say this, when you don't even know what he knows, has said to Mueller, or what dirt the SC has on him?

It's just mind boggling. It'd no different than someone saying 'Drew Brees is still playing good, but they're not going to go to the Super Bowl" Like, what, why? How do you know this already...?

#1706 Re: The Sunset Strip » RIP BURT REYNOLDS :( » 400 weeks ago

^^ Checked into it, looks like its available on Fandango Now on my Roku. $2.99, I'll have to check it out.

#1707 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

How'd it go?  Any Q&A worthwhile?


Won't say I'm a big Avenatti fan. He's ok for what he is, sorta like someone out of the OJ trial, some idiot who comes out of nowhere for some bizarre, unexplainable reason. Wouldn't surprise me if he'd funded by some Hollywood elite. Anyway, a good sideshow to the circus, but I don't want him in politics. If he runs for Mayor of LA or something that's fine, but not National/Presidency. Who is this guy?

#1708 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

^ Website seems legit.

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#1709 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 400 weeks ago

Yeah jeez, long time. I suppose its one of those things now that 'High school kids were not alive during 9/11". Been so long. Always just a somber day, feels wierd doing things during it sometimes.

#1710 Re: The Garden » The Chicago Bears: 25 years of incompetence » 401 weeks ago

Yeah Trubisky did look good, RBs did too at times. Overall a good O, but they really lacked moving the ball the second half. Something to be a bit concerned about, but on the flip side young QB looked good, which is a good sign.

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