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#17931 Re: The Garden » The 10 Greatest RBs of all time elimination- Round 1 » 959 weeks ago

Yeah, but Bo was a running machine during his career. There will always be a huge 'What if?" asterisk next to his name. Sad thing is that he was on a mediocre team at the time. Put him with the Broncos during that time, and Elway gets at least one ring in the 80's.

He would have been great with the Skins as well. Maybe even Seattle during that small window of opportunity they had in the mid 80's.

#17932 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are they crazy ? » 959 weeks ago

I've accepted the fact the "milking" of AFD will never stop, regardless of any lineup changes now or in the future. Its too late for Axl's vision(if he ever even had one) to come to fruition and establish two entirely separate entities of GNR. If he was going to do that, it would've had to be done back in the late 90's when the new GNR era started.

Had there been a real plan, and that plan actually been put into action and not just talk, new GNR would already have 3 or 4 albums in its discography, and not only would not need to rely on 87-93 material, but would in essence be its own band. The public would have totally bought into Axl's vision, and the old band would be a footnote. A large one, but the band could have easily existed on its own merit.

The best we can hope for now is some sort of middle ground. The album needs to come out, for several reasons. To satisfy the hardcore base that has been loyal and stood by him for years, to get the monkey off his back, to let these songs have a chance to be heard by the masses, and to show the world that he did have some sort of vision and the disintegration of the old band wasn't for nothing.

Then of course when they tour, you will still get the hits package. Difference being that with an album in stores and GNR actually being in the spotlight, interest in these tours by hardcore and casual fans will increase, regardless of what is being played.

#17933 The Garden » The 10 Greatest RBs of all time elimination- Round 1 » 959 weeks ago

James
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Interesting group of ten that made it. Good to see Thurman Thomas getting the respect he always deserved. Bo Jackson making it was a bit of a surprise. Will be interesting to see how well he stacks up against these incredible RBs.

There were quite a few RBs tied for that last spot, and I didn't want to do a tie breaker nomination poll(I'm sure you guys didn't either). The way I decided to break the tie was whoever out of those tied had the most SB rings made it. That's how Roger Craig made it. Had I went by actual yards rushing, Curtis Martin would have made it. Tough call either way.

Tough choice right from the start. I am gonna have to go with Marshall Faulk. Sure he's great, but so is everyone on this list. I always considered him like a second rate Thurman Thomas. I didn't really follow Faulk's career, but I would not be surprised if Thurman was the person he tried to emulate. Pretty similar styles. Also, you have to weigh the impact each of these guys had on their team while they played, and their impact on the league as a whole. Faulk developed into a great player later on, and out of these guys, I think the team could have continued without him. That great Rams team probably would have won that SB without him.

#17934 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are they crazy ? » 959 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

^ Then again you can say Slash has commented on "Chinese Democracy" more than anyone else in the band.... 16

Thats the truth. Which is pretty pathetic. However, he gets baited into those questions. Never brings it up on his own. World War III could be happening, and someone from the GNR camp would yell Slash from the highest mountaintop.

I just wish they could get their priorities straight. The music is too good to throw that away and waste time on small fish.

#17935 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are they crazy ? » 959 weeks ago

Axl having his lawyer claim an incident that can never be proven. This accusation was so lame, they had to send out 2 press releases. One without the Slash shit to society, and one with the Slash shit to GNR communities.

Almost every interview in the CD era.

Beta's constant posts, PMs, and now phone calls about Slash.

The resurrection of the Slash incident after March 6th when the next thing we were supposed to hear was some sort of CD update. What does Slash have to do with Chinese Democracy?

Dizzy's lame interview in 05(although this interview was fishy).

That Alan Niven statement in early 06.

There have been fewer Chinese Democracy mentions by GNR or people associated with GNR than there have been about Slash.

#17937 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are they crazy ? » 959 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

It is wierd for them to be upset about Slash so many years on. But then i guess theres a personal level to it as well - like Axl and Slash were friends as well as co-workers, and when friendships fall appart it can stick to you.

If thats the case, why hasn't Slash bitched about Axl for 12 years? Because he moved on.

If Axl/GNR weren't obsessed with him, he wouldn't come up constantly.

Its never the time for any CD news, but its always the time for Slash mentions?

At least we know the captain of this ship is steering it correctly.:haha:

#17938 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are they crazy ? » 959 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

this just sounds ridiculous.

It does? Have you read Beta's posts? Or maybe take a crash course on the happenings over the past two years(minus the AFD tours of course)? Its par for the course.

I'm shocked that people are considering this conversation far fetched.

#17939 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are they crazy ? » 959 weeks ago

Well, too much Slash shit coming from the GNR camp over the years, regardless of the MSL-Beta conversation. This just reinforces it. Remember, earlier this year after March 6th, instead of talking about CD the GNR camp resurrected that whole Slash going to his house bullshit. No one but the GNR camp cared.

I dont understand the anger/obsession/frustration with Slash. He moved on 12 years ago.

This band cant move on living under the shadow of a top hat. Sad but true.

Its really no surprise that Buckethead bailed. Who wants to sit around talking about someone who hasn't been in the band since the mid 90's?

#17940 Re: Guns N' Roses » Are they crazy ? » 959 weeks ago

What a clusterfuck. 14 years since the last GNR release, all the band has to show for it is comments about Slash. Yay us. This obsession with Slash that the GNR camp has really needs to stop. They need therapy, and not the kind Beta can provide. Do they realize that every person who used to be in the band has moved on? Dear Lord.

Her comments about Slash wanting to rejoin are ludicrous. Why join something that does nothing? Especially when you are already in a successful band.

Axl is too involved in the online world. I have said for years that he practically lives at these sites, and as more info keeps coming out, looks like I was right. He needs to step away from the internet and realize that the whole world isn't obsessing over him or his hatred for Slash.

Fans are the enemy? The remaining GNR fans left are the ones who prop these AFD tours up.

The fans need to get a life? Then admit you cant move on and are still too obsessed with Slash to ever do anything, and your fans will move on and "get a life".


GNR has to get over its obsession with Slash or this band will never do anything more than AFD tours. Period.

A reunion will never happen. Its obvious now. Slash will never do it. Who wants to walk into a situation where someone is completely obsessed with you, and the obsessor has a few hangers on who are paid to talk shit about you? If Slash has any integrity, he'll refuse when Axl's bank account shrinks some more and he wants to cash one final huge paycheck.

Like Slash said a couple months ago: "The past is the past and I am interested in whats going on now".

Too bad Axl cant have a similar philosophy.

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