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#171 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 338 weeks ago
Sonland's testimony was the death blow today, not even sure why we are continuing past this point. Trump, Pence, Giuliani and Mulvaney all thrown under the bus.
Pompeo is also about to resign.
If Trump was smart, he would too.
#172 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago
Prosecuted for quid pro quo? That’s what prezs do, deals.
It's called bribery and it's in our constitution.
So yes, he's being prosecuted for it right now.
#173 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 339 weeks ago
Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts this morning. What a shocker! Another one of Trump's inner circle is going to prison. Not to mention that Bannon's testimony contradicted what Trump put in writing to Mueller in regards to Wikileaks.
Public hearings this week are damning for Trump, one lifelong public servant after another testifying to the criminality of this traitor. Even better was Trump's appointee, who paid 1 million bucks for the privilege testifying to Congress last week.
The best part today was the donald getting called on witness tampering in real time while they are questioning Yovanovitch. Unbelievable.
Are you trump apologists learning anything yet? My guess is no.
#174 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 342 weeks ago
The GOP doesn't have a leg to stand on. If they did, they would not have pulled that stunt they did today storming into the impeachment depositions, under the guise of transparency, but ultimately blocking Laura Cooper's testimony. This of course was a the direction of Trump, yet another form of obstruction. Does this sound like a group of people who have any argument at all? They have none, so they want to muddy the waters and hopefully delay the inquiry as long as they can.
There is no denying a quid pro quo. None.
Just one of nearly half a dozen testimonies. This one by William Taylor is ultimately damning:
#175 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 342 weeks ago
Will anyone wait for something to actually happen...
Do you read? Serious question.
There is so much happening, it's almost impossible to keep up.
#176 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 342 weeks ago
lol, Hey check out this old post I found from '74
Will anyone wait for something to actually happen before declaring the 700th end for Nixon?
I've never seen so many people hellbent on a President Ford before...be careful what you guys wish for.

If Trump resigns, Thanksgiving weekend gonna be the weekend to do it. That or Christmas week, claim he achieved all he set out to do, fixed the economy, saved America from The Obama's, then pardon everybody & resign.
I highly, highly doubt at this point he can make it thru this.
I can't imagine him resigning ever. He's a huge narcissist, but mostly because the office also shields him from further prosecution, something that goes away once he's out.
On the other hand he's also a professional victim, so I could see him resigning so he can assume the martyr role and claim the "deep state" had it in for him, after all he did for us.
#177 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 342 weeks ago
I cannot overstate how damaging this Amb Taylor testimony is to Trump. pic.twitter.com/ARLewa1DCV
— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) October 22, 2019
#178 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 342 weeks ago
One damning testimony after another. No wonder Trump is on Twitter gaslighting today.
It's over. Even though Trump, his attorney and Chief of Staff already admitted it, this is just one more testimony to secure his impeachment.
I guess the maga cult can wait for their dear leader to tell them not to be deceived by their own eyes. Nope, it's a big nothing burger again, crazy liberals.
https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1186720837220655104
#179 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 342 weeks ago
U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
The senior U.S. diplomat in Ukraine told lawmakers Tuesday that President Trump made the release of military aid contingent on public declarations from Ukraine that it would investigate the Bidens and the 2016 election, contradicting Trump’s denial that he used the money as leverage for political gain.
The explosive, closed-door testimony from acting ambassador William B. Taylor Jr. undermined the repeated statements of the president and the depositions of other administration officials, with the potential to reset the House impeachment probe of Trump.
Taylor, a seasoned diplomat, Army veteran and meticulous note taker, provided an expansive description of a series of events at the heart of an investigation that poses the most serious threat to the Trump presidency. One Democrat described the testimony as “damning.”
In a 15-page opening statement, obtained by The Washington Post, Taylor stood by his characterization that it was “crazy” to make the assistance contingent on investigations he found troubling.
He described how officials from the Pentagon, State Department, CIA and former National Security Adviser John Bolton tried unsuccessfully to get a meeting with Trump to release the aid. He testified that Ukrainian officials were blindsided by the White House’s decision to release a rough transcript of Trump’s July 25 call with President Volodymyr Zelensky in which the president asked for a favor with “virtually no notice of the release and they were livid.”
Upon arriving in Kyiv last spring Taylor became alarmed by secondary diplomatic channels involving U.S. officials that he called “weird,” he said.
Taylor walked lawmakers through a series of conversations he had with other U.S. diplomats who were trying to obtain what one had called the “deliverable” of Ukrainian help investigating Trump’s political rivals.
“In August and September of this year, I became increasingly concerned that our relationship with Ukraine was being fundamentally undermined by an irregular informal channel of U.S. policy-making and by the withholding of vital security assistance for domestic political reasons,” Taylor said.
Taylor’s testimony filled in some blanks about the activities of U.S. officials who appear to have sought Ukrainian help at the behest of Trump and his personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani.
At issue is whether the White House conditioned military aid and a meeting between the two presidents on Zelensky’s cooperation, and whether that constitutes an abuse of Trump’s office.
More:
#180 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 343 weeks ago
And this is just fucking embarrassing.
EXCLUSIVE: I have obtained a copy of @realDonaldTrump’s letter to #Erdogan. @POTUS warns him to not “be a tough guy! Don’t be a fool!” Says he could destroy Turkey’s economy if #Syria is not resolved in a humane way. Details tonight at 8pm #TrishRegan #FoxBusiness pic.twitter.com/9BoSGlbRyt
— Trish Regan (@trish_regan) October 16, 2019
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I actually thought it was fake when I first saw it.
