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#1851 Re: Guns N' Roses » Fernando's link to leaks? And the craziness that is gnr » 870 weeks ago
^ What makes everybody think that Axl has so much integrity when it comes to a reunion?
Sure we know which side of the fence Slash and Co. sit on regarding a reunion. They would likely jump at it in an instant. I don't believe they have ever made a secret of it. We also know that Slash loves playing, loves the spotlight and the $$'s that subsequently flow from that.
I would also say that Slash has been pretty up front about all of that too. Well for me there is some integrity in that because what you see is what you get with him.
Axl on the other hand it's nowhere near as clear. He seems to have publicly made it clear he doesn't want a reunion. He doesn't seem to like the general media spotlight either. However, my guess would be that he would like to be influential in the music business again and have some sort of impact. Who wouldn't after having had a taste of being at the top of the mountain. With that comes a certain amount of fame, influence and importantly $$'s. They all go hand in hand with success in the music business.
I believe $$'s are a factor in Axl's decision making. I mean hell why would he have sold his publishing rights to Sanctuary unless he really needed the money? So if there was some bastardised form of a reunion that was planned at one point which would have given Axl the other guys publishing rights, his "No Reunion" stance would have gone out the window in a second. Sure he would have probably only been going through the motions for a payday but it's not totally implausable.
It's not about "letting it go", Copperye and others are simply discussing a scenario of what might have almost happened, based upon various things that were occuring at that time. Trying to fill in the pieces of the puzzle if you will. Personally I think a reunion is a pretty far off thing now, but could it have got close around that time - YES!
#1852 Re: The Garden » The GN'R Related Backgrounds Thread » 871 weeks ago
Some nice backgrounds there.
#1853 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter updates » 871 weeks ago
Bad Quality Viper Room Pics 



#1854 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter updates » 871 weeks ago
Good Quality Viper Room Pics


#1855 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter updates » 871 weeks ago
That's all hypothetical of course. But I'm just saying, Axl is the man with the power in GNR, in a renuion situation, when everyone stands to make a lot of money from it, then they'd be lining up to play ball on whatever terms axl says.
I think what you have said there is the key. Currently Axl holds the power since he seems to be the only one anti a reunion. Consequently his list of contract stipulations and riders could be a mile long. BUT as time continues to drag on and Slash's individual star continues to shine and grow (who knows how big he could be after his solo album comes out) the dynamics start to change. Slash will probably tour his solo album in some capacity pretty heavily too. Consequently Slash's need for a reunion continues to diminish as he develops his own niche and relevance in today's music business.
Couple this with the fact that as these guys get even older the value of a reunion gets somewhat diminised due to the presence of zimmerframes and wheel chairs (exaggeration but you get my point). Sure the nostalgic factor will always be saleable but the older they are the less chance of getting together and any NEW music coming from it etc. They are hardly going to set the world on fire again or stick a rocket up the music business as 50-60 year olds.
What I am bascially saying is Axl's bargaining power in a reunion continues to decrease on a daily basis. It's directly proporational to Slash's reducing need for a reunion and personal music success and star status. He may be able to call a lot of the shots on the terms and conditions of a reunion but that won't be the case forever, that will change - in fact it may have already!!
BTW I don't think a reunion is currently in progress either just speculating too on the dynamics of one.
#1856 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter updates » 871 weeks ago
Yes the key is that the business side of things really needs to be handled PROFESSIONALLY.
That is nothing against Beta and her kids or Del etc but unfortuantely at times their actions have appeared to be less than professional. Whether it's defending Axl by attacking fans on forums or getting ex A&R guys thrown out of a club - whilst their support for Axl is admirable it's not exactly a wise move from a business perspective.
I suppose that's the difficulty when you have friends/family effectively employed by you to operate on a business level as well. Sometimes the line between friend and business gets blurred. I would imagine it's difficult to take off your "friend" hat and let shit said about Axl slide, but they need to recognise that the way things have been they effectively represent Axl and the GNR name too, so their actions are a direct reflection on that also.
Ditto goes for Perla and some of the things she says and does.
Whilst these people will obviously always be there (friends and family) I think wherever possible it's healthy to separate them from business dealings, more often than not it tends to end in disaster if you don't. People just get too emotionally involved in the situation and can't look at things objectively and professionally.
#1857 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter updates » 871 weeks ago
I think people might have said that Slash and Adler jammed with Dizzy.
#1858 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter updates » 871 weeks ago
I see Eric Romano on mygnr conveyed an email from Fernando re. the Viper Room thing saying:
According to Fernando (received by e-mail): "never happened".
Wouldn't be the first time that twitter and/or facebook information turns out to be false.
Nobody as far as I could see had posted saying they took the stage together? The guys live in LA it's no surpise they might end up at the same joint sooner or later.
Eric then posted again later saying:
Talked with Beta a little earlier tonight.
Were they at the Viper room? YES
Did they play together? NO
I guess Fernando's e-mail this morning mentionning "never happened" simply meant that they did not play together.
What surprises me is these bloody people are so fucken obsessed with Slash that they will come out of the wood work to stop anybody implying that these guys were getting on a stage together or heaven forbid being grown up and cordial to each other (even though I hadn't seen that said other than people highlighting the fact they were playing the same venue on the same night). BUT ask them where the fuck Axl is, or the Better video, a tour , or the video responses to fans etc and they are conspicuously silent.
I don't understand it??? Commenting on non GNR shit like this yet refusing to comment on important GNR things makes no sense to me???
#1859 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter updates » 871 weeks ago
Slash's latest Twitter post:
Going to the Viper Room is like going back in time a couple decades everytime I go there, like a time warp. Cool, but disorienting.
Interesting that Dizzy Reed and Richard Fortus have their last show at the Viper Room tonight also.......
#1860 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses New Myspace Bulletin » 871 weeks ago
What 'that "Stolen bike" thing' ? Was it a MySpace bulliten?
They used a myspace bulletin to try and locate some dudes lost motorbike.
It was a similar situation - we don't get any news or know WTF is going on. Yet suddenly when they want some help with something, they request fans via a myspace bulletin to extend them the courtesy of trying to locate Dan Druff's stolen motor bike.
