Smoking Guns wrote:

misterID wrote:

If Obama was under investigation, and a lead investigator texted that he went to a KFC and could SMELL Obama supporters, that Chicago was full of ignorant clone and he was going to get Obama impeached, what would folks be saying?

Exactly.

Lol whatever...hardly a fair comparison.

There’s actually an investigation in one case that has led to many indictments and arrests.

You have the same group of people that led the Clinton Benghazi investigation with pitch forks. That led to nothing.

An investigation supported by angry people that hated Obama took several years.

On the flip side, you have an investigation that’s leading to real things is being led by the same assholes. They’re spending government resources to hide things and put out fires and redirect attention to irrelevant things.

No matter what side of the aisle you’re in, that kind of abuse of power is real. The republicans have been absolutely ruthless since and during Obama. If you’re upset about the reaction to that ruthlessness then it tells me which side of the fence you sit on.

I’m tired of people looking at things in a vacuum.

Randall Flagg wrote:

misterID wrote:

If Obama was under investigation, and a lead investigator texted that he went to a KFC and could SMELL Obama supporters, that Chicago was full of ignorant clone and he was going to get Obama impeached, what would folks be saying?

The same things Republicans are now. But I think they’re wrong. Yes, it’s unprofessional. But the IG report found no evidence of wrongdoing or political motivation. I don’t think the Steele dossier was true, but the FBI has a responsibility to give it a valid look to see if anything further is worth investigating. Honestly, is it any surprise a career, federal law man took personal issue with Trump’s claims, bravdo and demeanor during the campaign?

If they want to matyr him, fire him. The guy’s career is over. He had an opinion, like every free person is entitled to.

No one has put forth evidence that Strzok’s personal opinions influenced his work. The IG stated it didn’t.   So people are just bitching because his personal opinion isn’t aligned with their’s.

That's not what I'm saying, I'm talking about how he's being treated like a hero.

buzzsaw wrote:

If you can't acknowledge that the Dems set the ACA up to fail on purpose so that they could get to single-payer, there's no point in having an intellectual conversation about it.  You can post all the opinion articles you want.  You can post gazillion word long posts and it doesn't change any of that. 

I'm not going to go back 8 years and try to remember all of the details and I'm sure the fuck not going to waste my energy doing research and then posting opinion pieces on it.  Let's keep it simple.  They could have done whatever they wanted.  So how did we end up where we are today?  Why would they give in on their key legislation unless they knew it was bad or they wanted to make sure it was bad?

No they didn't set it up to fail. The dems did not start sabotaging it the day it was passed. That's conspiracy nonsense. The biggest issue was that Obama had an awful advisory team and a shit stew of cooks.

No, they could not do what they wanted, like the Republicans can't repeal it like they wanted and said they would. They've tried how many times with a majority?