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#1871 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 410 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Axl S wrote:

Are we really criticising the side here that is Anti Fascism? Figured that would be a pretty agreeable stance.


I'm criticizing anyone who assaults people legally exercising their free speech.  I'm criticizing a group that isn't attacking fascists or nazis, but anyone they disagree with.  Antifa isn't anti-fascist, they're anti free-speech and label anyone they dislike as a Nazi.  That's not only intellectually dishonest, it's the same exact tactic and method actual Nazis used to silence and oppress their political opponents.

Is this not how trump behaves? I want a president that i feel doesn’t view me as the enemy. That would be a huge help!!


My president attacks me and my people everyday....why shouldn’t i be hostile?


Trump isn't preventing anyone from speaking out against him or expressing a different viewpoint by physically assaulting them or sending death threats.  That doesn't mean I think his behavior, his attacks on the media, or the chants of "lock her up" are in any way acceptable or becoming of the President.  But he's the rightfully elected leader and was done so in part, because of his behavior.  He's not in violation of the law.  Antifa is.

#1872 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 410 weeks ago

Axl S wrote:

Are we really criticising the side here that is Anti Fascism? Figured that would be a pretty agreeable stance.


I'm criticizing anyone who assaults people legally exercising their free speech.  I'm criticizing a group that isn't attacking fascists or nazis, but anyone they disagree with.  Antifa isn't anti-fascist, they're anti free-speech and label anyone they dislike as a Nazi.  That's not only intellectually dishonest, it's the same exact tactic and method actual Nazis used to silence and oppress their political opponents.

#1873 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 410 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

This thread has become an echo chamber except for me.


Fair enough to an extent.  But is that because for months this forum became a platform for a bonafide and unapologetic 9/11 Truther to spread continued lies and conspiracies about Trump colluding with Putin, which were proven wrong time and time again.  Besides the truther, the only one who kept peddling that conspiracy was PASnow.  Cool dude, but never wanted to go deep into the issue.  I hope he comes back once Mueller wraps it up in the next couple months, as he offered a unique view.

You're capable of making an informed and intelligent post, but you're the only one left who is happy to just shit post nonsense.  We get the occasional rando who makes an appearance with a one sentence post to quickly disappear when challenged, and I'm ok with that.  If you can't defend your position, maybe it isn't worth defending. 

I'd love to have this part of the forum full of posters again.  But people that haven't researched their position quickly run out of material when the discussion moves away from America's gun laws.  I'd much rather see several people have an informed discussion than see this part of the forum turn into the GN'R section which is mostly comprised of fan boys arguing over whether Slash, Axl or DJ has the biggest dick.  No thanks.

If you want to talk about abortion or some other social issue, have at it.  I'm sure you'll find this isn't the echo chamber you think it is or maybe you'll become part of the echo chamber on that issue.  No one disagrees with you that Trump is an asshole.  You're just not going to find a lot of people who think Trump is starting the 4th Reich or that detaining illegal immigrants and putting them in air conditioned tents is anyway comparable to the holocaust.  And if you make those claims, some of the posters are going to ask for a little more nuance than "fuck trump" in your argument.

#1875 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 410 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

They're actually pro socialist fascism; and they're pretty violent. They put a liberal female professor in the hospital not too long ago because she had the audacity of debating a conservative speaker when they demanded no conservatives be able to speak ever on campus.

You should really look into a group before supporting them.

Can you link that story?  I missed that

#1876 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 411 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

You guys are just cheerleaders for the Right aren't you?


Quit projecting, Mitch.  The only one still present in this discussion that absolutely refuses to condemn the side they fall under in this binary system is you.

#1877 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 411 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Democrats had Trump on the ropes with the child separation stuff. Boy did they screw up with this abolish ICE shit.

Talked to my buddy at the WH last night. Internal strategy is loving this. Dems could cost themselves the house if they go down this road.

#1878 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 411 weeks ago

Anyone see the videos of Antifa getting their asses kicked in Portland over the weekend? 

The radical left is going to find out that it’s antics are going to continue to bring out people that actually know how to fight. I have no sympathy for those who got knocked out this weekend. Bunch of cowards hiding behind masks.

#1879 Re: Guns N' Roses » APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION - Super Deluxe | Discussion Thread » 411 weeks ago

Gagarin wrote:

Really I bought it (the... Super Deluxe) for the demos - yes, I've heard some of them for 18 years, but NOT LIKE THIS. It was worth it for that for me. I didn't expect 1.) the album proper to sound much different, 2.) them to keep the dynamic sound. I did notice that the My Michelle intro is clearer compared to my vintage CD. I'd have to suspend judgement for getting the real discs.

At some point those Blu-rays will be ripped apart and people will be releasing the 5.1 channel separated audio - I have a feeling. That should be interesting. Not quite audio stems, but close.

I hope someone posts a rip of that 'secret' cassette.


Is there any software that does that?  I'll have it up in an hour if so.

#1880 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 411 weeks ago

zombux wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Can someone PM me The General

it doesn't exist... only the crap cellphone recording

I haven’t heard that

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