Yeah I forgot I'm required to be positive because it seems like something good might happen.

Of course we're supposed to overlook the fact that the band has self- sabotaged every single attempt at activity since 1993 one way or another.

It won't happen this time.

But are they? Did Adler come up with the You Could Be Mine Drum intro?

As for songwriting credits the normal practise is to credit the song to whomever wrote the lyrics and the melody of the song. Not "the music" but "the melody". This is inherently harsh on bass players and drum players who are often very creative in jams but are not formally writing "the molody" which is why a lot of bands have a practise of diving publishing among all members anyway to promote harmony. However some bands don't.

The bottom line is writing the words to YCBM or the guitar riff to YCBM will earn you a writing credit but that drum part won't. Yet it's kinda important to the song. So going off who has the writing credits is not the sensible way to test contribution to the band as it's full of legal shonkiness.

Spot on.

I've been a fan since 87 or something but somewhere I've lost a bit of patience.

It started around 2009 when they let that amazing tour doco of the asian tour languish and die....just like they had the 2006 era doco...the second CD album...the cinema release and a bunch of other stuff.

Then it got worse  when Slash starting going solo and using up his best riffs with session musos instead of GNR and VR where he had world famous chemistry with people on his level. Just cos it's easier to do his own thing.

What was the turning point? Maybe it was Rock In Rio 2012 (Still referred to by the general public on youtube as "The Axl Rose Disaster") where you watch it back and academically wonder how a band with so much talent can do that to itself.

Maybe it the hall of fame, where Axl didn't rock up, Dizzy made some excuse, Izzy was too cool again, and we wound up with Myles kennedy and fucking greenday talking about GNR.

Maybe it's that there's unreleased songs being hoarded from 2001 and it's 2016 this year.

I think a MAJOR part of it started in 2014 in vegas when GNR faithfully promised us through it's mastabatory series of fernando and band hints that something special would happen - only to perform basically a rehash of it's previous vegas residency only with less rasp and less enthusiasm across the board.

But come to think of it - it might be that they chose one of those performances as the one to release on BD - all be it a couple years on as usual. Never mind all the asskicking stuff in the vault from better shows.

Then this reunion started. It's kinda disconcerting on some level. I mean Axl said he would die first. Slash and Duff have always been holding out for something to change. In a way it's disturbing for Axl to cave on his hatred and Slash to cave on his principles but fuck me....the world has needed GNR badly for 30 years (because basically Axl's solo GNR refuses to release enough to fill the void). So I was happy anyway. Fuck how can you not be happy about a GNR reunion with Axl and Slash right?

But then they cancelled that TV interview where they were going to explain what was going on. Then they decided it was best to play more secrecy shit like they have for 30 years. Can't tell us the line up. Can't explain if there's plans for a full tour. Can't tell us the status if there's new music or not. Can't even say who is in the fucking band.

And you know what i'm tired of it. I'm tired of everything being self sabotaged. I'm tired of them shitting all over their own artistic creation with the bullshit that's gone on - be it the petty fights, the vaulting of creative output or whatever. Axl can call me a cunt or whatever and say he owes us nothing - but i'm not so sure. At some point if you live in the luxury of fame, if you were gifted with the sort of talent Axl and Slash got from god, the universe or their genes or whatever you have a fucking responsibility to stop ruining it. It's like someone knowing the cure to illness but just not feeling like sharing it.

So yeah...obviously i'm happy to see Axl and Slash play together next month...but you know what I'm sick of taking the minimum - it's about time they did something properly but it's painfully obvious they don't give a fuck what fans want and scorn anyone who even likes them.

That's semantics though.

They wanted back in Guns N Roses because they founded it, because they wrote 83% of the bands songs, because newer bands were never accepted by the music listening public and Axl's instance that it is GNR is considered a joke to most , and because touring under the GNR brand will bring significantly more money than any of their solo efforts would.

It's not like they wanted in the band so they can play with Pittman and Frank. It's not like they've seen the light and want to start making industrial songs and follow that vision.