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#191 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 157 weeks ago
What there doing now is basically what Ron said they should do back then, drop a few songs at a time. They should have done this years ago
Tbh, I thought it was dumb when he suggested it 
I think Ron’s goal was to release the “old stuff” and record new songs for a new album, which was never gonna happen for him. I can see Slash wanting something similar, the difference being Slash is getting songwriting credit on the “old stuff.”
#192 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 157 weeks ago
Has it been confirmed Monsters is on the vinyl too?
The only confirmation is the name “General and Monsters”, and Fernando’s little quip about General being a monster. You know, because everything needs to be vague and a secret for “reasons”
#193 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 157 weeks ago
I still can’t get over what a colossal clusterfuck this entire release has been. Why would you tack on two of the most sought after and anticipated tracks of the CD era to a B-side for a vinyl single? They’re better than Hardskool and way better than Absurd. The press was great for Perhaps, he has goodwill with the media, The General would have been heralded because of the child abuse aspect. Whoever is making these decisions needs to step back and get someone in there who has an actual plan and knows how to execute it.
The leaks were the only good thing that came from this. They screwed up every step of this process. They can blame the vinyl plant, but these songs should never have been released like this to begin with
#194 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 157 weeks ago
Shacklermyrye, so you have the ability to edit/remix these songs? I wonder what General would sound like with like the end ending of Circus Maximus would sound like. It feels like a pretty abrupt ending
#195 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 157 weeks ago
Only complaints I have are the ending shredding and yelping during the last 30 seconds of The General. The ending of Monsters is a bit hectic as well.
All the re-records with Slash and Duff feel chopped up except Perhaps
#196 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 157 weeks ago
Don’t go under his bridge, fellas
#197 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 158 weeks ago
Damn, thought there was hope DTune and Me and My Elvis weren’t scrapped 
#198 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 158 weeks ago
Credit to D.. from MYGNR Beltrami got back to him, this is a quite revealing post, they were always different songs
Marco Beltrami was kind enough to answer me a second time, can't believe he's so kind and took the time, what a great guy! Sadly he doesn't remember Monsters former name. He does remember a song being quite long but unsure if it was The General or another one. But if it was, it's not The General we have, as apparently there was a longer song he worked on (but he's unsure whether that long song was The General back then, maybe it's Seven or another one we haven't heard).
Just to be clear, he did listen to the leaks, I wanted to make sure he understood and could compare with what he remembers, and what we have has been modified from when he worked on those, so I guess it's hard for him to properly remember specific former names. But he does recognize those two songs & his work, and they weren't a single song back then (just like we have a hard time understanding how they could form a single song, as it is). The instrumental part isn't meant to form a continuity between this version of The General, and this version of Monsters, both instrumental were specific creations of his. Each 8 songs he's worked on/arranged had a specific arrangement meant for a particular song.
So it almost confirms for me that Monsters is indeed Soul Monster. And 100% confirms that those "The General" and "Monsters" we have are different songs.
Oh wow that’s awesome. That kills my idea they were meant to bleed into each other
8 SONGS?? 
#199 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 158 weeks ago
James wrote:misterID wrote:I love what RTB did with the songs, and I’ll never understand the love for Beavan’s production
The Beavan material is the album(s) at its purest. If you properly mix/master that material, it's ready to go.
This.
RTB added a lot of flimflam with mixed results. Freese's comparatively angry, snappy drum tracks were replaced; the tempos were loosened up. I'd still like to hear the Beavan album, with Bucket and Brain May spliced in.
I honestly don’t hear any film flam, if anything RTB stripped the songs down. Like IRS and The Blues for example. A lot of those additions came after he left. The tone of the instruments sound leagues better and I think it was worth re-recording them imo.
#200 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General and Monsters » 158 weeks ago
The shredding also sounds like how Slash shreds
