You are not logged in. Please register or login.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#191 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 372 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:They'd be stupid to impeach over this. The Senate will never support it - Graham has already came out saying so. This was a nothing burger, once again. I'm all ears for people who've read it to explain what happened that was illegal and improper. I didn't see anything about demanding dirt for aide, as was claimed 24 hours ago. So let's watch the goal post move once again.
I don't think you possess the maturity level or honesty to understand what is happening right now. The White House just did something similar prior to the release of the Mueller report. They got their hands on it first, modified it and then released it to the public. Just like Barr's four page summary of Mueller's report. The only difference is that in this one, it clearly shows criminality. It's 100% prima facie evidence.
Last time you idiots all came here to say it was nothing (based on Barr's false synopsis) and it turned out you were wrong. There were nearly a dozen instances of obstruction by trump. The report also concluded that he was open to accepting help from Russia and use it against Hillary (same as now.) Today you continue to lie about that outcome, because you're a liar I suppose?
It's also only one facet of the whistle-blower report, which is being reported this evening that Trump also tried to hide evidence of this call. In addition people who have read the report said it's staggering in its criminality and "explosive."
But really, even if nothing else came up (which there will) Trump asking a foreign country for help against a potential political rival in the 2020 election is something to get impeached for. It's not a "nothing burger", it's a crime. He's already admitted he did it, along wit Guiliani and changed his story on withholding military aid. He should be impeached, and frankly I'm already seeing cracks in the GOP. As we go down the road, I would not be surprised to see more say "Enough" of this criminal.
#192 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 372 weeks ago
I don't want him impeached. That'll just create the circus to end all circuses.
He just needs to be a one term president.
I disagree. If we don't impeach Trump, then our constitution is meaningless, as is our checks/balances.
Trump's using his stooges to mislead the public about the findings of the Mueller report and to block the House's oversight on the Ukraine thing. Allow this to go unchecked and he'll only continue to abuse power.
#193 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 372 weeks ago
I'd have drawn the line a long time ago but apparently this is how politics works. Presidents have traded aid for things for some time now and survived, so just because you hate the guy it doesn't make this worse assuming it actually happened.
That's not how "politics works" you're being willfully obtuse in order to ignore the scale of what Trump does. An apologist masquerading as the "everybody does it and they're all bad" guy.
#194 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 372 weeks ago
I really don't want to get pulled into another chasm of nothing again. It's why I fell off the impeachment bandwagon. It's as exhausting as it is futile. I just want some hard evidence. If the whistleblower ends up being someone who heard the information through the grapevine... Ugh. I'm just going to wait and see. If he did it, he needs to go.
But I really, really, really don't want Pence.
C'mon man....
The whistle blower is high up in the intelligence community and the inspector general was appointed by Trump! Giuliani went on TV and admitted it.
The Wall Street Journal, hardly a bastion of liberal ideology, broke the story.
How much more "hard evidence" do you need?
#195 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 372 weeks ago
misterID wrote:But I really, really, really don't want Pence.
It's amazing how many idiots on the impeachment train don't understand what happens after that...
Is Trump offering military aid to another country in return for dirt on a political opponent acceptable? Yes or no?
#196 Re: Guns N' Roses » 21/9/19 Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, CA UNITED STATES » 372 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:I don't wanna get hung up on the short hair but...
picture please :-O
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1175648221504425985/photo/1
#197 Re: Guns N' Roses » 21/9/19 Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, CA UNITED STATES » 372 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:I don't wanna get hung up on the short hair but...
I don't think it's a good look. Though he almost 60...
He's closer to being a pensioner than he is to being the age he first recorded those great tracks we were listening too. I really think it's just sad.
I agree. Kinda sad to watch.
You either just accept it or you don't IMO.
#198 Re: Guns N' Roses » 21/9/19 Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, CA UNITED STATES » 372 weeks ago
I don't wanna get hung up on the short hair but...
#199 Re: Guns N' Roses » 21/9/19 Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, CA UNITED STATES » 372 weeks ago
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1yoJMznjzmwxQ?q=guns+n+roses
Don't expect too much.
These have never played worth a damn for me.
#200 Re: Guns N' Roses » Me And My Elvis Instrumental Leak (2019) » 372 weeks ago
Had this on repeat the last 30 minutes or so.
