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#201 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 347 weeks ago

It's a pattern:

The US reportedly pulled a top spy out of Russia after Trump revealed classified information to the Russians in an Oval Office meeting

The United States was forced to extract a top secret source from Russia after President Donald Trump revealed classified information to two Russian officials in 2017, CNN reported.

A person directly involved with the discussions told the outlet the U.S. was concerned that Trump and his administration routinely mishandled classified intelligence and that their actions could expose the covert source as a spy within the Russian government.

Trump stunned the national-security apparatus and intelligence community when it surfaced that he shared the information with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak at an Oval Office meeting in May 2017.

The meeting took place one day after Trump had fired then-FBI director James Comey, and the president is said to have boasted to the Russians that firing "nut job" Comey had taken "great pressure" off of him. Comey was spearheading the FBI's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 US election at the time.

Trump then went on to share intelligence with Lavrov and Kislyak connected to the Islamic State in Syria. The information had come from Israel, which had not given the U.S. permission to share it with the Russians because it could have compromised an Israeli source in the region.

Trump's disclosure was not specifically about the Russian spy. But his move to disregard strict intelligence-sharing rules to protect highly placed sources prompted intelligence officials to "renew earlier discussions" about the potential risk that the source would be exposed, CNN reported.

The report said that Mike Pompeo, who was CIA director at the time, told other senior Trump administration officials that too much information was coming out regarding the U.S. asset in Russia.

This is not the first time national-security veterans have expressed concerns that Trump's actions could reveal sensitive information about U.S. intelligence-gathering processes and human sources working abroad.

Late last month, the president took to Twitter to release U.S. military information that he received during a classified intelligence briefing earlier that day.

Trump's tweet immediately set off alarm bells because it included a satellite photo of an Iranian launch pad that was a much higher resolution and better quality than the commercial satellite images of the site that were publicly available.

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#202 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 347 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Can we find out what was actually said before the outrage?  It’s not like career officials have lied and exaggerated the past 32 months.

It’s his prerogative as the executive to say what he wants and feels is best. Obama has no problem “agreeing” to the Iran deal despite opposition from his own party and no support from congress. He had no problem telling Russia he’d have more flexibility after the election.  So for me to get upset about whatever Trump might have said, it has to be worse than that. I have a hunch it won’t be, but the left will howl anyway.

Obama! Obama! Boo hoo hoo, Obama!

This has nothing to do with Obama.

Somebody just reported our President to the Intel inspector general. This isn't "oh the other guy did stuff like that too."

#203 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 347 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Supposedly he made a "promise" to a leader on Aug 1w. Around that time theres a list of about 5 leaders he was dealing with, incl Putin & Kim Jung.

He's seemed angry & arrogant lately, and with Bolton leaving just days ago this is not a good look.

I agree it could be partisan, but seems Trump is trying to keep it all under wraps under the veil of national security.

This ain't partisan, it's just not. This is somebody so alarmed (again) by numerous actions that they reported it to the intelligence inspector general.

Pretty big deal....again.

Fox thinks the world is partisan and want all their stupid viewers to believe it, because they are. Trump's actions the last two years can't be insulated by throwing this word around, unless you're a completely useless right wing turd who will defend everything Trump does. Which of course, they do.

#205 Re: Guns N' Roses » How long until The General? » 348 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:

I’m loving these leaks tonight, and I keep asking myself: Why now?

Someone mentioned, I forgot who or where, that we’re getting these now because really new music is coming with Slash and Duff.

These old songs still have some value. I’m guessing by what’s happening that all the old stuff is getting traded and liberated.

The two left that have always interested me over the years are The General and Ides of March. I assume it’s only a matter of time until we get them.

Unless... they are being reworked by the Big Three.

Anyway, a fun time again....

The whole thing seems orchestrated to me...

#206 Re: The Sunset Strip » Eddie Money dead » 348 weeks ago

James wrote:

What a legend. A few days ago after listening to Atlas for the millionth time I needed to cleanse my palate. Scrolled through my music and chose Eddie's greatest hits. All killer, no filler.

I'll be listening again tonight and will probably tear up during 'i wanna Go Back'.

Shakin  is a jam for the ages.

Damn man. I was a big fan.

I read he had stage 4 cancer a couple of weeks ago.

RIP.

#207 Re: Guns N' Roses » Zodiac For Trade » 348 weeks ago

Zodiac Salesman wrote:

Thing are busy right now so I’ll keep this short and sweet.

I have Zodiac. It sounds great, like a NIN song. I want to trade for other unreleased songs or valuable proshots.

Only interested in serious offers (if you mention rehearsals at all I won’t reply) so please don’t waste my time.

Contact me at zodiacsalesman@protonmail.com.

Eat a dick?

#208 Re: Guns N' Roses » State of Grace clip » 348 weeks ago

Sounds killer.

I'm sure we'll get the whole thing soon.

#209 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 351 weeks ago

Ouch....


#210 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 351 weeks ago

Scaramucci asks left to create 'off-ramp' for Trump officials, compares it to 'trying to deprogram people from a cult'

Anthony Scaramucci, who briefly served as President Trump's White House communications director, said the left needs to give Republicans supporting Trump the space they need to break from the president.

"We recognize that the president is a clear and present danger to the American society, the American culture. There are many people inside the White House and in the Cabinet. I would ask the left to let's create an off-ramp for those people because when you’re trying to deprogram people from a cult, one of the first things you have to do is allow them to change their mind, and you have to allow them to have the space to change their mind," Scaramucci said Sunday in a Fox News interview.

The former Trump official has doubled down on his attacks on Trump in recent weeks, after years of supporting and defending Trump's actions and rhetoric.

He said criticism of the fact that he used to defend Trump is "very justifiable."

Scaramucci said he would further explain his recent switch in an op-ed that will be published later this week in The Washington Post.

"Trust me: There's a ton of people inside that White House, inside the government, up on Capitol Hill that feel the exact same way," he said.

He also cautioned Republicans not to feel "intimidated" by Trump, likening the president to a bully. 

Trump has pushed back on Scaramucci's recent criticism, telling reporters he's called the White House repeatedly.

Scaramucci said that is false and that he has not asked for his job back.

"Look at the White House phone records. I didn't call that many times," he said.

"He's gone off the rails," Scaramucci said.

"He's acting in a way that's completely unstable. It is an issue of leadership and the culture of serving leadership. He is literally — we've gone 42 presidents since George Washington — he's literally he opposite of George Washington," he added.

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