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#2231 Re: The Garden » Race On To Build World's First Space Elevator » 912 weeks ago
We could certainly use something to brighten up this dull town Bucketfan.
Cool to see another Perth person on here! Where abouts in Perth are you?
#2232 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New Slash song for Les Paul Tribute.... » 912 weeks ago
Vocalise is a fine piece of work with some real feeling in it. Cheers for the youtbue links Smoking Guns.
#2233 Re: The Garden » Race On To Build World's First Space Elevator » 912 weeks ago
Yeah it's a totally different paradigm for looking at travel into space - or at least to the edge of the Earths atmosphere.
#2234 The Garden » Race On To Build World's First Space Elevator » 912 weeks ago
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Australia could play a key role in the 21st century space race, with competition heating up between Japan and the US to build the world's first "space elevator".
As the technology required to create a physical link between Earth and outer space becomes closer to a reality, discussions of next-generation space exploration have been given new life.
Japan announced recently that it was researching plans to build a space elevator – a link to space that could transport cargo and even tourists – for as little as 1 trillion yen ($11 billion).
"Just like travelling abroad, anyone will be able to ride the elevator into space," chairman of the Japan Space Elevator Association, Shuichi Ono, told The Times.
The news is believed to have shaken up scientists at NASA, who have traditionally focused on rockets to reach space but could now be considering following Japan's suit.
Australia too may play a part in the creation of a space elevator, with a region off the west coast identified as ideal for an Earth dock – the structure that would anchor the link.
Unlike some science-fiction depictions of a giant tower or elevator reaching into the stars, modern plans for a space elevator rely on a cable being stretched between a satellite and a platform on Earth along which vehicles could travel.
One location being considered by NASA for such a platform is off the coast of Perth, according to the West Australian co-author of the book Leaving The Earth By Space Elevator, Philip Ragan.
Mr Ragan, who wrote the book with former NASA scientist and space elevator expert Dr Bradley C. Edwards, said there were 12 criteria that had to be met when choosing a possible location for the Earth port including consideration of storms and lightning.
"We identified that the Indian Ocean, about 500km off of Perth, was a prime location to site the Earth end of the cable," Mr Ragan said.
"A second preferred location is about 2000 miles (3218km) south of Hawaii... (which would be) closer for Americans in air time but logistically more remote for servicing by shipping."
An Australian Senate report released last week backed up Mr Ragan's claims and said the West Australian oil industry's expertise in building offshore platforms could prove useful if the plans went ahead.
"The Indian Ocean off Western Australia has been identified as an ideal location for a space elevator – a thin carbon nanotube connecting a barge to a space station, along which supplies could be carried up," said the report.
Professor Lachlan Thompson, from RMIT's School of Aerospace, Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering, said Australia would also be an ideal partner for space agencies because its land mass was not divided into different nations.
"Australia is an ideal place for suborbital and orbital tourism due to it being a large land mass not divided by countries," he said.
Technical challenges
Professor Thompson, who co-chaired the Space Elevator Technology Session at the 59th International Astronautical Congress in Scotland last month, said the creation of a space elevator, while not yet possible, was supported by theoretical evidence.
“Elevators to space can be made to work... eight papers presented (at the congress) supported strongly the idea is sound," he said.
If a space elevator was built, it would provide a method of transportation to a space platform floating about 36,000km or more above the Earth. But where to from there?
Many of the costs associated with space exploration stem from trying to get off Earth itself – by overcoming the planet's gravitational pull using extremely expensive rocket blasts.
Missions launched from a platform already outside of the Earth's atmosphere would be cheaper and more efficient, allowing for more exploration projects.
However plans for a space elevator rely on finding a material strong enough to form the cable, or "ribbon", stretched between Earth and space. Scientists say the ribbon would need to be 150 times stronger than steel to be stable.
"The stresses in the cable due to its own weight are partially relieved by the mass in space at the end of the cable, so that's not a problem," Professor Thompson said.
"But the loads are enormous and get dangerously high once the elevator starts oscillating as it moves along the cable.
"The first challenge is to develop fibres that have sufficient strength-to-weight ratio so that they will take the load without being so ridiculously large in diameter that it could never be deployed.
"The next is to work out how to make the cable, which is why everyone is looking at nanofibre technology."
Mr Ragan said it was likely that carbon nanofibre cables strong enough to sustain a space elevator would be produced within the next five years, and could be tested in space within a decade.
"If anyone can do it, the Japanese certainly can as they are currently the world's largest producer and user of carbon nanofibre at lower strengths," Mr Ragan said.
Mr Ragan said competition between space agencies would heat up in coming years as the technology to build a space elevator became available and the cost efficiency of launching missions from outside the Earth's gravitational pull became clear.
"When the appropriate strength carbon nanofibre is definitely in production, interest will intensify," he said.
"The first country to deploy a space elevator will have a 95 per cent cost advantage and could potentially control all space activities."
Source: http://www.news.com.au/technology/story … 39,00.html
#2235 Re: Guns N' Roses » BETTER: second single CONFIRMED » 912 weeks ago
what trick?.....CD was doing pretty well. I agree that Better needs to go to radio. I'm thinking Chinese Democracy was thrown out there because of the name and the fact that it has a little edge. Releasing Better now is a perfect move. It is clearly the most radio friendly track. But, then again, I am not a target audience consumer so I may be way off!:peace:
The trick I was referring to - was to really break this thing right into the mainstream. (I still haven't heard CD played on the radio in Oz) nor heard any dj even mention it. If I hadn't emailed around the link to the song to most of my friends they wouldn't even know GNR had a new album coming out.
I think Better accompanied with a video will really deliver this album smack bang into the mainstream and finally get momentum for this thing to really pick up and people to start talking about this album.
e.g Kings of Leon Sex on Fire - everytime I turn on the radio I hear that song, I always see it on the Video Hits type programs on TV, I read shit about them a lot of places etc etc. (BTW I really like that song too). I believe Better will be the trick to really push this thing into the general publics consciousness in a similar vein.
If it doesn't God help them nothing will!
I reckon the first ballad they release will be Street of Dreams.
#2236 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Speaks Out Against Proposition 8 » 912 weeks ago
NY Giants82 wrote:NY Giants82 wrote:Ugh...
And before anyone goes "Oh NYG82, he's a bigot!", I'm talking about my favorite guitarist speaking out on politically charged issues. I don't like hearing celebrities, period, getting involved in politics. But thats just me.
It's not a political issue. Did you consider segregation a political issue? The history books will not be kind to the people who are turning this into a political issue when it's not.
Teja - I don't know how it works in the States. But in Oz these sorts of things usually are political. In the past we have had one party for example that will be pro "same sex couples getting married", or "having their relatinship legally recognised for tax purposes, separation/property settlement purposes" etc etc. the other main party may be against this or certain pieces of legislation. So it does become political in a sense.
#2237 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash Speaks Out Against Proposition 8 » 912 weeks ago
^ Yeah I'm with you NY Giants82, I dont' care about their political/societal points of view, but for my favourite guitarist to be doing such a cringeworthy amateurish thing I simply found lame. Did they borrow Wayne and Garth's basement to make and broadcast this thing?
To use an Aussie band as an example - Midnight Oil. They had some great tunes and many of the songs and lyrics were about important political & topical issues. But when the music stopped unfortunately Peter Garrett's mouth didn't fucken stop. In the end, even though I agreed with a lot of his stances on things, I just got sick and tired of bloody hearing about it. Eventually he did the only thing he could - he went into politics - he is now the Federal Environmental Minister.
I guess what I am saying is that it's fine Slash did it, just please don't make it a habbit of continually sharing your policital views with me. In addition, perhaps think of a more professional or better method of communicating your views too. I was switching between laughing and hiding behind my lounge in shame watching that video. 
#2238 Re: Guns N' Roses » BETTER: second single CONFIRMED » 912 weeks ago
That's good to hear it will be Better. I don't think they really had much choice, they had to pick the song most likely to have general commercial appeal.
I think Better will do the trick - I'm looking forward to it coming out and watching the reaction.
#2239 Re: Guns N' Roses » CD now on sale, IN MEXICO » 912 weeks ago
Aussie, I don't believe Stephanie will be playing much guitar.
I thought Steph was better at playing the flute 
I was thinking of paul huge
#2240 Re: Guns N' Roses » CD now on sale, IN MEXICO » 912 weeks ago
Hmm Tiny Tim that was a very intriguing post about enchilades I'm sure there is a hidden meaning to that. 
