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#231 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Scott says VR is finished after this tour on stage in Glasgow?! :( » 946 weeks ago

Seven wrote:
the_real_jessica wrote:

So, not very useful criticizing people really, is it ?

What i am curious about is wether they have a singer in mind now Scott has publically declared himself out ?

I think they never saw this coming. .After reading their press recently I don't even like the rest of the band that much... They seem Affected...to the point of paralysis... and well being from a ring in this family tree,,, i am not always that nice...but then again neither are they... here in was the issue same for Steven....

I think Scot has a chance to really process what he wants to say...  I always liked his solo stuff to hear him back with STP after a hiatus... YEP... that could be big.

He never was that negative about the others guys possibly doing a reunion one day was he?... There is only one door to that....Back to one boys...Maybe you'll get it right next time. (or the next x7)

Love ya Jess you know me i tend to process things a little more aggressively...

I know sweetie..I know..

What Scott does is up to him now. The future open its arms to him.
And to them. So to ...;)

Everyone needs to get it right this time.

There is a reason for everything..

PS : need to mail you, i know..sorry sorry sorry..

#232 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook : Axl fan page url » 946 weeks ago

we have gone up from 720 fans to almost 1000 since i posted this. cheers.:thumbup:

#233 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Scott says VR is finished after this tour on stage in Glasgow?! :( » 946 weeks ago

So, not very useful criticizing people really, is it ?

What i am curious about is wether they have a singer in mind now Scott has publically declared himself out ?

#234 Re: Guns N' Roses » Facebook : Axl fan page url » 946 weeks ago

I added my crappy Bercy 2006 photos and videos on his fan page.:peace:

#235 Re: The Garden » HAPPY EASTER! » 946 weeks ago

Happy Easter DTJ or " MTB" ( Mom to be) ..Congrats DTJ, dealing with issues right now, didn't have time to say how happy i am for you. 19

#237 Re: The Garden » Vatican lists "new deadly sins" » 947 weeks ago

I will not provide more.

I could. But some things are best left unknown or unsaid.

Think what you want.

Time will show you. As you still live. Nothing can and will stop what must happen.

#238 Re: The Garden » Crohn » 947 weeks ago

I want to know if it's liveable.

#239 Re: The Garden » Crohn » 947 weeks ago

Not saying it affect ONLY jewish people, but it's MORE present in jewish families.

Neemo, can you please tell me about your mom ?

I know you can't self diagnose, i'm looking for info coming from people around people who are sick.

#240 Re: The Garden » Vatican lists "new deadly sins" » 947 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

You make an outrageous comment and condemn an institution that has had more impact on Earth than any other, and you tell me I'm pissing on everything?  I take it you don't have an intelligent response and fail to see the irony in you telling anyone they're "pissing" all over something.

Just one example of your " institution"

Simon McGuinness


The Irish Times - Jun 21, 2007
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/ … 07688.html


Did the Vatican buy arms for the IRA?


IRA claim is latest twist in 'God's Banker' murder trail


by Paddy Agnew


Letter from Rome : Did the Holy See, wittingly or unwittingly, via its
collaboration with the ill-fated Banco Ambrosiano once buy arms for the
IRA?


This astonishing allegation is just one of the many unanswered questions
raised by a new book, The Last Supper , written by Rome-based journalist
Philip Willan, on the life and mysterious death of Roberto Calvi, oft
referred to as "God's Banker", who was found dead, hanging from
scaffolding under Blackfriars Bridge, London on June 18th, 1982.


The Calvi death remains an unsolved mystery. As he struggled to save his
bankruptcy-threatened bank (it eventually collapsed in 1982 owing an
estimated $1.3 billion) was he threatening to spill the beans on some of
his most delicate banking "operations"? Did the Ambrosiano, at the
request of the Vatican, help fund the Polish trade union movement,
Solidarnosc? What exactly was the Vatican's relationship with Banco
Ambrosiano?


Had the network of offshore companies set up by Calvi been used by
organised crime to launder the proceeds of the heroin trade and were the
Mafiosi now looking for their money? Did the bank help fund the purchase
of arms for the late Saddam Hussein in Iraq? Did the bank supply funds
to most of the leading Italian political parties of the day?


Via his membership of Licio Gelli's outlawed masonic lodge, P2, had
Calvi put together a network of dangerous and ultimately fatal "working
relationships"?


Twenty-five years on, the Calvi murder is still occupying the courts.
Just two weeks ago, a court in Rome acquitted five people charged with
Calvi's murder. Those cleared were Mafia boss Giuseppe "Pippo" CalC2;
the businessmen Ernesto Diotallevi and Flavio Carboni; Calvi's driver
and bodyguard in his last days, Silvano Vittor; and Flavio Carboni's
Austrian girlfriend Manuela Kleinszig.


So, the Calvi death retains its rightful place in Italy's Fame Hall of
Unsolved Mystery. Who, if anyone, killed Calvi? Who decided to blow up
Bologna train station, killing 85, in August 1980? Who was behind Ali
Agca's attempt on the life of Pope John Paul II in May 1981? Why, on the
evening of June 27th, 1980, did an Itavia DC 9 plane, on an internal
flight from Bologna to Palermo, drop like a stone from the sky, crashing
into the sea near the Sicilian island of Ustica, killing all 81 on
board?


The list goes on, there are plenty of other such mysteries but what they
all have in common is that no one has been found responsible for
horrendous crimes.


The Calvi investigation did not get off to a good start. Initially,
London police concluded that Calvi had committed suicide. In his book,
Willan points out that at the recent Rome trial, the most damaging
criticism of the original inquiry came from another police officer, Det
Supt Trevor Smith, who had been asked to carry out a fresh examination
of the case in July 2002.


Smith found a "catalogue of errors and omissions" - the knot in Calvi's
noose had not been preserved; fingerprints were not taken from either
the scaffolding or items found on his body; there was no investigation
of international travel by Italian citizens around the time of Calvi's
death; no bank accounts associated with Calvi were checked; his body was
not photographed before removal from the scaffolding; bricks found in
Calvi's pockets and down his fly (why would a person bent on suicide
want to stick a brick down his fly?) were removed; perhaps worst of all,
investigative activity was suspended for almost a month pending the
outcome of the first inquest (which reached a verdict of suicide on July
23rd, 1982).


Was this all just shoddy police work or proof of a masonic plot?
Officially, even if Italian public opinion had other ideas, Calvi's
death remained a "suicide" until 1988 when a Milan civil court ruled he
had been murdered and that, therefore, his life insurer was obliged to
pay the four billion lira (_2 million) owed on his life policy.


Willan's book contains myriad possible explanations for Calvi's death,
explanations largely based on the evidence of a "cast of extraordinary
crooks and charlatans" beside whom the protagonists in Dan Brown's Da
Vinci Code , he writes, "pale into banality".


And the IRA connection? Here, we need to reach for a generous pinch of
salt. Willan recalls a 1986 interview given to Italian news weekly,
L'Espresso by Francesco Pazienza, another of the "rogues' gallery", a
former secret services agent, former consultant and lobbyist for Calvi
and someone currently in prison for his role in the fraudulent collapse
of the Banco Ambrosiano. Pazienza recalls: "The company Erin SA,
controlled by the Vatican, owed the Ambrosiano more than $60 million in
1981. Well, in mid-1981, the German secret services and the CIA received
a report from the English security services asking them to investigate
the purchase of strategic material by a well-known German arms dealer,
material that was destined for the IRA. The report referred to a
"Panamanian company, considered close to Catholic circles and probably
the Vatican, named Erin SA".


Willan then asks if "the Vatican had been buying arms for a terrorist
organisation?" Yet another of the unanswered questions raised by this
fascinating book, one which takes the reader on a disturbing ride
through 25 years of plots, counter-plots and conspiracy theories linked
to the worlds of organised crime and high finance.


The Last Supper, by Philip Willan, is published by Robinson (London).


(c) 2007 The Irish Times


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