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#2461 Re: The Garden » Who's behind the Wall St. protests? » 786 weeks ago
At least here in australia, once if you were loyal and if you worked your life for a company, they'd show you some loyality back. That's often not how it goes around here these days. I've seen people who've given 15 years to a company at low pay be told they have to make themselves into independent contractors rather than employees - so the place can hire them back to do their exact work they do at less pay and with no need for any benifits and stuff like that. I've seen people who were great at their jobs be fired because the company needs to grow 15% a year and if they can't do it in revenue then they have to do it in salary. So those people go home to their kids with no jobs so that the company they've served can post even larger profits.
To me this is what the protest is about, not any of this strawman bullshit the right wing are claiming.
I think a lot of the anger is rooted in this change for the worse over the last three decades. The corporations have slowly whittled away the worker's benefits to further profits and keep Wall Street happy. What workers were given instead was "free market" solutions (401ks) instead of pensions that guaranteed the worker something at the end. Now they want to get rid of social security and Medicare here in America. They won't do it overnight, but they've already convinced enough people that it's a "ponzi scheme" and they will whittle that away over the next few decades too. They'll get it too I'd imagine, one day it will be 86'd.
It was Wall Street that took these risks that crashed the market, not the everyday people who invested in their 401ks trying to save for retirement. Millions of Americans could not retire once it crashed.
You can't short your retirement portfolio, but the hedge firms certainly can; in other words they win either way. The average American is taught to dollar cost average over time, ride the dips and the peaks and you'll come out ahead. That's a tough line to buy after the last decade. In a normal market yea sure, but in one that is allowed to run riot (do to lax regulation provided by our government which is bought off by WS), then how does the average guy stand a chance at coming out ahead? What I saw is a group of firms who had trillions of dollars (pensions, 401s, retirement funds), financed by middle America and was shamelessly reckless with it. After they burned everything to the ground, they asked for money from the tax payers to keep them afloat. The sad reality is that while I hated (and still hate) the thought of socializing loss, it was necessary to stop everything from going down the toilet. Seeing the DOW get cut in half is one thing, seeing it lose 90% of value is quite another.
The subprime loans that went to shit were financed and then resold by WS. These weren't traditional banks in the way we think of them. They were "home lending" firms set up exclusively by Wall Street, who had no interest in servicing loans, only selling them. Shit loans bundled and sold as premium investments (my segue to point 2.)
Second problem that didn't protect the American workers (and their investments) was the failed ratings system. Moodys etc who gave AAA ratings to these shit investments (bundled sub prime notes.) We never would have gotten off the ground if they had been rated properly. I'd say this is the least talked about issue, and IMO one of the biggest culprits of our economic demise. Again, Goldman Sachs knew they were dogshit, even so much as to short them. So how is that fair to the American public? Surely they knew that the day would come where the house of cards would fall, but why worry? They make money either way. American investors assumed what they thought was normal market risk, not that crazy shit. As America watched it's portfolios burn, Sachs got billions in bailout money. Did anybody from GS go to jail for this shit? Nope. It's hardly a surprise why this would chap people's collective asses.
BOA same thing. Taking bailout money and then (as a way of saying thanks) charging people excessive fees, not working with them on home loan modifications etc. That's fucked up.
Firms today, running lean and mean....and not hiring. They are sitting on record profits, a surplus of cash in the trillions. But no hiring? Do they have to? No they are not obligated to hire anybody. But again, it's not difficult to see why people are pissed.
My father worked for GE for 30 years (or so) and then retired. That was common for a man of his generation. He was able to buy company stock over those three decades at a discount, as well as get a pension when he retired. He had job security up until the last five years, when they were constantly offering him packages to retire early. He was one of the only full time employees with benefits in his office by the time he left. This simply does not happen today for Middle America. Benefits are slashed, your job security is poor, and for retirement you get to give your money to WS and pray it doesn't vanish overnight. All of this is directly related to firms who are beholden to Wall Street; short term profit snuffing out any long term gain for the Middle Class. Of course by the time you hit your prime earning age, 50's, you have a high chance of getting laid off so some kid can replace you for half the salary. Good luck getting a job in your 50's when that happens too.
That's just SOME of the reasons people are pissed.
#2462 Re: The Garden » Who's behind the Wall St. protests? » 786 weeks ago
Is it utterly retarded in terms of an anti-capitalism movement, hell yes.
I understand.
However since I don't view it as an "Anti capitalism" movement, I do not agree with what you see as irony.
#2463 Re: The Garden » pets » 786 weeks ago
Sorry about your cat.
I have three dogs. One of them has dealt with undiagnosed allergies (constant itching) that requires prednisone for years. The long term effects of that drug have begun to wear her down and she now has a distended belly ( enlarged liver) and tumors all over her body. She can still make it around the block, but these days she moves pretty darn slow. She actually still has a decent life, but I know eventually it will turn a corner and we'll have to make the decision. I feel bad for her because if she's damned either way. If she doesn't get those meds, she would scratch until she bled, and then get a secondary infection from that. Long term use of those meds cause a laundry list of problems.
#2464 Re: The Garden » Hank Williams Jr. Compares Obama to Hitler » 786 weeks ago
I thought the same thing. Obama needs an opponent to really get more accurate polling data.
The 999 plan would raise taxes on the working man, hardly an endorsement the GOP want to embrace as their own. However, the GOP are brilliant at propaganda so the contents may be completely irrelevant. Working class Republicans constantly vote against their own self interest. Not to mention, "My 999 tax plan" sure is catchy ain't it?
Cain's religious stuff may empower the Christian wing, but it may also bring out the lefties as a protest vote. Guess we'll see how it all plays out. I still think Cain's numbers will drop over the next few weeks. Real curious to see if they hold.
#2465 Re: The Garden » Plastic surgery a model needs for Barbie look » 786 weeks ago
Nuts man, just nuts.
#2466 Re: The Garden » Next on the list: Uganda » 786 weeks ago
100 troops hardly equals hegemony. C'mon now...get real.
#2467 Re: The Garden » Hank Williams Jr. Compares Obama to Hitler » 786 weeks ago
I thought it was ironic that the far right were so vigilant about courting Christie. He's spoken out against their ridiculousness and essentially told them the "Sharia law" horseshit was just that....crap and fear mongering. Something that probably wouldn't play too well with them if they were ever aware of it. He does have that Palin attack dog persona they seem to love, and he's obviously much more intelligent than her. I did wonder if he would go the veep route after he announced his support of Romney (which honestly at this point of the race I found odd.) Guess we'll see.
Romney could team up with Cain for a few obvious reasons: Race and Teabagger support. I can't really see anybody else teaming up from that group right now though. It will be an interesting race, as well as general election.
The polling numbers tell all kinds of different stories. Obama has held steady for general likability. An overwhelming majority of people who don't like his policies still say they like him as a person. His overall poll numbers aren't that great, but compared to the GOP led Congress they are fantastic. When polled people also say they trust Obama over the Republicans to create jobs and turn the economy around. I suspected after 2010, and still think now, that the GOP would over reach and shoot themselves in the foot for 2012.
The latest polls I saw showed Obama ahead, or within the margin of error, with every GOP candidate. That's strong considering he is not really campaigning and they are at this point. Also people always forget that when Obama speaks...he's numbers surge.
With this, it still won't be a cake walk for him and Romney could very well win. Personally I think Obama speaks softly and carries a rather large stick. A great example of that is his debt ceiling negotiations. When it was over Bohner claimed he got everything he wanted, and the media portrayed Obama as soft. But if you really dug into the details you'll soon realize Obama was playing chess and the GOP were playing checkers. If Bohner really believed what he said, then he's truly an idiot who got played. I have to believe he was just saying it as a bluff and to save face. For this reason, among others, I would never count Obama out.
#2468 Re: The Sunset Strip » Whitesnakes Re-Birth » 786 weeks ago
I've always loved Whitesnake...thanks for putting these up.
#2469 Re: The Sunset Strip » Jani Lane Dead, only 47 » 786 weeks ago
Thanks man.
There was something else extremely heavy that happened in tandem with that (the death part.) It changed the way I viewed life forever. I can tell you in private if you'd like to hear something mind blowing.
#2470 Re: The Garden » Judge: Casey Anthony must serve probation in FL » 786 weeks ago
I still want to bang her. The crazies ones are always great in bed.
