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#2581 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

When someone threatens to sue me, I click save. If that's crazy or frightening to you, I hope you never have someone threaten to sue you by calling them by their legal name and attempting to ruin your military career. And tell lies how he caught you outside of their house.

#2582 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

Brett wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Brett wrote:

Randall...


Is that you admitting you were wrong?

You bolded yourself to guilt...


Ahh, thanks for being an adult and admitting I didn't say anything about all handicapped people should be killed.  Very adult of you.  Bye now.

#2583 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

Brett wrote:

Randall...


Is that you admitting you were wrong?

#2584 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

Brett wrote:

Put the fucking post out there. You fucking know it. I don't post to mislead. You said it. Fucking deal. Why mess with bullshit if you know it? You know it, I know it, that's why I said it. Then post it. I obviously want you to do the work for me because I sure as fuck won't do it for you.

I give you every bit of respect I give everyone else here. So the ball is in your court to prove what I said, as you called it as a lie. So do it.


Here it is:


Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:

We're going to end up with some kind of single payer system, most likely based on income, at some point.

I understated how much the med industry got off my father. I forgot to mention he had dialysis treatments which cost 30 grand a month for 5 years. Don't get me started on how crooked the dialysis industry is. John Oliver had a great segment on it.


I'd be ok with universal healthcare if people had to comply under law.  You can't have a system that allows people to behave and procreate without impunity and expect others to cover it.  There always has to be a co-pay, even if it's $10 to discourage people from abusing the system.  Federalize all medical records and have them accessible and shared across all institutions.  No more doctor shopping to get more pain meds or adderall. 

If people want health care to be an obligation from the government, then the government has an obligation to police the health related activity of its citizens.  If I were emperor, that'd also mean babies with retardation or extreme disabilities/deformities would never come to term and you 90 year old nana wouldn't be getting chemo to treat her breast cancer.  But i have a feeling anyone who tried to apply that approach to health care would be lynched.  When Palin tried to scare people with "death panels", I always thought "good, we should decide if we want to spend millions so some 90 year old gets 15 more months of life in hospice care."

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.p … 20#p303520

So are you going to apologize and admit you're wrong?  That I never said anything about killing all disabled people?  Or is a post about if I were emperor we wouldn't bring babies into the world with " retardation or extreme disabilities/deformities" the same as " two months ago he was talking about how all handicapped people should be killed".  Now who looks like a fool?

You're free to argue that bringing a mentally retarded baby or severely deformed baby into the world isn't cruel.  You're also free to argue that the taxpayer should be on the hook for providing care for life to someone who is going to have a miserable quality of life.  I'm free to disagree.  But you're not allowed to claim that I ever claimed all handicapped people should be killed, then post several times calling me a liar and telling me to fuck off when I correct you.

#2585 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

After taking photos of me and posting them on his site, I called SLC by his real name:
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But I need to get a grip.  Only one person here has tried to sue someone over posting shit on the internet.  And it wasn't me.

#2586 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

Brett wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Brett wrote:

Randall, I didn't read your bullshit. You responded exactly how I thought you would with "can you link that claim". You said it. I didn't make it up. Fuck off.


I didn't.  You're not being honest.  And I appreciate you filling in for Mitch.  Have a blessed day.

You absolutely said in the health care discussion earlier (people were saying overweight people should pay more and others brought up how STD's could play into the factor of poor health of in shape people, if anyone seriously wants to find the quote themselves) [I'll edit here so Randy can't "pick me apart" but if you go back to this time, his quote is there on how he'd handle handicapped people]. I just am not going to waste my time and find your quote because even if I did you would say you never wrote it. I'm not that dumb.

And as a hardcore Stephen King fan, you're a disgrace to the man. You lack everything Randall Flagg has.

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No, I didn't. You're either lying or misremembering. And if I'm supposed to be insulted I'm not the enmissary to the crimson king ( I like how you only know the tv version), the guy who destroyed gilead, delain and wiped out the world with Captain Tripps, I'm not.

I know the post you're being dishonest about. But I'll wait for you to find it (your only contribution was America isn't civilized and how great Canada is) and then try to turn that into me saying we should kill all handicap people.

But I'll help you. Neemo and I were discussing a hypothetical American universal healthcare. (Which I said I supported). No apology will be necessary, but it would be appropriate after you find it and realize how wrong you were.

And when you do find it, I'd appreciate if you linked the entire post.

#2587 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

Brett wrote:

Randall, I didn't read your bullshit. You responded exactly how I thought you would with "can you link that claim". You said it. I didn't make it up. Fuck off.


I didn't.  You're not being honest.  And I appreciate you filling in for Mitch.  Have a blessed day.

#2588 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

Can you link that claim?  I don't know who you are. But this is exactly what I'm talking about. Some random joins the conversation, gets a pat on the head from the regulars who make outrageous claims, then disappears. I assure you I've said no such thing. But eagerly await for you to prove me wrong.

I'm sure you'll vanish soon and not defend your horrendous accusation.

The people who post in this thread know I've made no such claim, but I'm sure you'll get a positive karma from the other guy who makes outrageous claims then spends 3 posts denying he ever made them.

Like ID said, I think we take this too personal at times. But I'm not going to let someone call me a racist because I believe in borders or claim that I want handicap people to die (I'm a bonafide disabled veteran, so your idea is absurd if you believe I'm working for my own best interests).

But here's a quick refresher on my stances without the nuance for those who might believe whomever Brett is.

1.) I support abortion
2.) I want Gerrymandering fixed
3.) I voted for Hillary
4.) I support gay marriage
5.) I support Medicare for all
6.) I want Dreamers to get protection through congress, and I want our immigration laws enforced
7.) I generally oppose military intervention, but North Korea is the exception
8.) the 2nd amendment is just as important as the first
9.) I believe your choices and actions have 99% to do with your success in life, not your race or gender
10.) I don't believe in God and don't care what the invisible man in the sky told you in a book.

But tell me how those views make me the hardcore antithesis of the "lefty" you apparently identify with.

Few put the effort and thought into their arguments I do. And even fewer are willing to concede to a better opinion.

But I'm pleased to meet your acquaintance. I'm sure you'll provide us with many posts that are constructive, thought out and have evidence to support them.

Edit:  I did a search on myself for  'disabled', 'disability' and 'handicap'.  About 4 posts come up under each, with this being one of them.  In that group, I talked about my support (that Trump overturned) for Obama's ban on firearm ownership for those on ss disability for a mental illness, the reporter who Trump "mocked", and a post about identity politics where disabled was in a long list of a fictitious lesbian immigrant who belonged to 10 different identity groups.

Not one post where I talk negatively about the handicapped, let alone advocate they should all be killed.  Yet, I'm somehow the asshole for defending myself when some unknown poster pops in, and makes an accusation he states up front he won't defend.  And some people wonder why some of my posts come across as irritate or angry when I have to defend myself against such horrible accusations.

#2589 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

I had to search Mitch and nigger to find the post.

He's right Mitch. You accuse people here of being racist yet you're the one throwing around these slurs. Is it projecting or simply using it for dramatic effect(most likely)? Either way, drop it.

Flagg.... let's drop the threats of outing people here. No one here deserves to be outed or have their business shamed because of things they say on a GNR forum of all places.

Everyone here knows I'm not gonna bother banning long time members who stuck it out but its starting to get ridiculous. There doesn't need to be this much tension among people who've known each other for so long.

Argue or kiss and make up...just leave the slurs and threats out of it.


I'm not going to out anyone.  But I do find it funny that the people who promote violence and use racial slurs on this forum are the first to lose their shit.  I ignored Mitch for 2 months.  He continued to attack me.  I reported it to Neemo, and he said he'd look into it.  Nothing happened. 

SLC posts his usual stuff.  Fine, everyone knows he thinks 9/11 was an inside job and spent years promoting that idea.  But then he verbally attacks me, telling me not to put words in his mouth after I ask him to elaborate on a claim.  He then immediately posts more articles supporting his absurd claim.  This isn't a mutual thing.  He showed up in this thread just to give me negative karma because his buddy Mitch got his hand slapped.  Is this the kind of forum we want?  Where one poster posts absolute nonsense (which is fine), but then lobs insults when he's questioned on his source.  Does anyone buy any of SLC's bullshit on this thread? 

I've disagreed with you, and nearly everyone else on this forum.  But only has 2 or 3 posters resulted in any animosity.  And if you look at their posts, you can see who instigates it.  Buzzsaw was in a similar position.  SLC recently said I never served in the Army.  Are these personal attack acceptable?  Again, this guy had a hard on for you and this site several years ago, actively working to get it taken down.  He's not a good person and quite frankly, he doesn't enhance the discussion in anyway.  ID and I had a passionate discussion for weeks, but neither of us wanted to continue spending our time calling each other names.  He may think I'm the worst person in the world, but he doesn't seek out every post I make to attack me.  Compare that with SLC or especially Mitch.

If you want me to leave, fine.  But I ask you to consider what certain posters motives are on this site and the tone of every post they make.    I'm asking to objectively look at their posting history and mine.  And tell me who the troublemakers are.

#2590 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 453 weeks ago

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Why is this language allowed?  Mitch has used the N word and now uses a slur for Hispanics. Why is this tolerated?

This poster contributes nothing but anger and hostility to any discussion he joins. He's not intelligent and doesn't follow any rhyme or reason.

Is this what the forum represents?  A bigot who used racial slurs and openly attacks anyone who doesn't agree with him?

Neemo?  Lofton?  Any feedback here?  Can anyone say with a straight face Mitch is a constructive poster?  Can anyone point to a post where Mitch isn't an abrasive and combative troll?

Are racial slurs ok now?

I'm serious. This guy repeatedly calls other racists, but he's the only one using slurs. He's a 30 something white guy who obviously is badly damaged and gets some kind of twisted gratification attacking me and repeatedly using racist terminology.

I've reported him. I want someone to declare if this type of offensive language is tolerated. The first rule on the forum guidelines bans this language, yet Mitch repeatedly uses them.

If the mods want to allow Mitch to continue this, can we please implement the ignore feature?  I don't associate or converse with neo nazis and I don't want to be associated with someone who is bold enough to use these words on a public forum. It's bad enough I have to endure his continued stupidity and lack of any thought or effort into his posts.


Project much?

Can you go away too? 

I've had enough of you posting 20 things about how Trump is a felon, me asking you to elaborate, then you throwing a tantrum, calling me names, claiming I can't put words in your mouth.  Then proceed to post more articles calling Trump a felon.

You tried to have this forum taken down remember?  You blamed Lofton for destroying your shit site after Brody had it taken down after you stole photos of he and I and posted them for all your brain dead followers to see.  Remember, one was of me in uniform, and you have the audacity to question whether I was in the Army.  You were actively working to have this site taken down until I informed you it was Brody.  And what did you do as a thank you?  Tell Brody and the the entire forum that I "ratted" him out by stopping you from being a full nutso.

I'm done with you SLC.  You're incapable of having a discussion and are more interested in hurling insults and giving negative karma than having a discussion.  You can't defend your positions, and then outright lie that you hold a viewpoint or articulated it a page earlier.  I wish you all the best and hope you find the medication you desperately need.  I won't be engaging with you anymore.  It's been a fun 14 years

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