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#2651 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

slcpunk wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Sorry, as soon as you bring a Nazi flag to a rally and chant 'The Jews will not replace us", you lose your 'we were just exercising our free speech ammendment' card.

Correct. And as I've said, if it were a group of Muslims chanting death to Jews, and fuck America, flying ISIS flags while they marched down the street, you think these guys would be defending their "Free speech"? Even after one of them drove a car into 19 people?

Yea right.

Fucking bonkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3tQT35CKnE


How many "nazis" bashed them in the head or maced them?

I found those after searching for "muslims protesting america" on youtube.  You can find many more.  Your argument is bullshit.

Berkley, the same place where antifa assaults anyone they like.  No one does a fucking thing when someone waives an ISIS flag.

#2652 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

BLM didn't exterminate hundreds of people at a time in gas chambers in an attempt to exterminate an entire religion. And the Nazi's came ready to fight with their own weapons too, or 'defend themselves' as they'll put it.

Oh, and Trump also bad mouthed McCain again. McCains gotta be flipping out over this guy. He really has to hate him now. Hopefully the Feds bring him down soon, McCains gotta be pulling all the strings he can.


And these asshats didn't exterminate anyone.  That's the problem.  You want to pretend these idiots, who are despicable human beings, have any connection to the holocaust.  They don't.  They're American losers covered in white supremacist tattoos blaming mexicans and blacks cause Wal-Mart won't hire them.  Yes, they're horrible people.  But they have the same rights as you or I do.  They're allowed to march through the streets after getting a permit and display their hatred for everyone to condemn.  The leftist aren't allowed to illegally show up with weapons and cause harm because "nazis."

Both sides acted horribly and illegally.  To suggest otherwise is to stick you head in the sand.

Only one side killed someone and injured 19


A hell of a lot more violence occurred than just the car assault/murder.  You want to ignore everything else that transpired and just focus on the woman who died.  Trump immediately condemned that.  I'd be shocked if you found anyone who wasn't on stormfront celebrating or justifying that action.  You don't get to ignore everything else that happened and only talk about the one piece of shit who committed murder.  His behavior doesn't excuse the nazis or leftist who maced and assaulted each other.  No one would have died if violent leftists didn't illegally assemble and provoke the white supremacists.  Both sides have blame in this.  That's all anyone who doesn't get their talking points from twitter or MSNBC have been saying.

#2653 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

But they have the same 1st amendment rights as the BLM morons or any other extreme group. If you don't acknowledge that, you're the fascist and threat to freedom and democracy. Intelligent people who support free speech don't show up with bats and masks ready to crack skulls.

BLM didn't exterminate hundreds of people at a time in gas chambers in an attempt to exterminate an entire religion. And the Nazi's came ready to fight with their own weapons too, or 'defend themselves' as they'll put it.

Oh, and Trump also bad mouthed McCain again. McCains gotta be flipping out over this guy. He really has to hate him now. Hopefully the Feds bring him down soon, McCains gotta be pulling all the strings he can.


And these asshats didn't exterminate anyone.  That's the problem.  You want to pretend these idiots, who are despicable human beings, have any connection to the holocaust.  They don't.  They're American losers covered in white supremacist tattoos blaming mexicans and blacks cause Wal-Mart won't hire them.  Yes, they're horrible people.  But they have the same rights as you or I do.  They're allowed to march through the streets after getting a permit and display their hatred for everyone to condemn.  The leftist aren't allowed to illegally show up with weapons and cause harm because "nazis."

Both sides acted horribly and illegally.  To suggest otherwise is to stick you head in the sand.

#2654 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

God forbid we acknowledge leftist protesters illegally gathered and showed up with clubs and bear mace to assault vile people exercising the first amendment. How dare we acknowledge people like SLC showed up to commit felonies and were beat to the punch (pun intended).

Sorry, as soon as you bring a Nazi flag to a rally and chant 'The Jews will not replace us", you lose your 'we were just exercising our free speech ammendment' card.


Except you don't. They're horrible human beings. You won't find any person who thinks Nazis are good people on this forum or any forum that isn't stormfront. But they have the same 1st amendment rights as the BLM morons or any other extreme group. If you don't acknowledge that, you're the fascist and threat to freedom and democracy. Intelligent people who support free speech don't show up with bats and masks ready to crack skulls.

#2655 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
slcpunk wrote:

Trump is taking a lot of hits from Republicans in Congress over this event too.

The everybody is to blame talking point isn't going over well with them.

God forbid we acknowledge leftist protesters illegally gathered and showed up with clubs and bear mace to assault vile people exercising the first amendment. How dare we acknowledge people like SLC showed up to commit felonies and were beat to the punch (pun intended).

Do you like killing liberals RF? Does that thought make you smile?

God forbid we call out the people who actually killed someone.

Protect white power!

Or you could stop eating paint chips for a couple minutes and realize no one but the nazis and folks like SLC were advocating or celebrating violence. But that takes away the victim card the left enjoys so much.

The media wants to pretend everyone there protesting was a neo Nazi. They weren't. I sure as fuck wouldn't attend any rally where nazis were agreeing with me. I don't care about Lee's statue. Means nothing to me.  But you're not interested in truth. You're interested in a culture war.

What the nazis did was heinous. The idiots carrying torches like they're after Frankenstein's monster are disgraceful. But we have the 1st amendment in this country. They got a permit to exercise their constitutional right, regardless of how vile and horrible their speech was.

A group of radical leftist showed up illegally looking for a fight, as they have been for years. Anyone who says they don't have equal ownership on the violence this weekend is a liar and disingenuous. The act of one alleged skin head doesn't negate or excuse the actions of hundreds of other anarchists and nazis. They deserve to have their actions and behaviors condemned as well. Be an adult, not a child.

#2656 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

slcpunk wrote:

Trump is taking a lot of hits from Republicans in Congress over this event too.

The everybody is to blame talking point isn't going over well with them.

God forbid we acknowledge leftist protesters illegally gathered and showed up with clubs and bear mace to assault vile people exercising the first amendment. How dare we acknowledge people like SLC showed up to commit felonies and were beat to the punch (pun intended).

#2657 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
TheMole wrote:

Can you explain why you feel that the lives of Americans are worth at least 10 times more than the lives of Koreans?

I'm an American.  Sorry if that's not the answer you want, but on a completely abstract level, every American has more potential to make the world a better place than North Koreans. South Koreans too. They've sat for 70 years with guns pointed at them, and have never taken the initiative to defend themselves and end the threat.

In the event of WW3, NK doesn't exist anymore. There's no outcome where NK survives. So take the collateral damage out of their side now, because there's no outcome where they're the victors.

Yes...that's always your logic. I'm an American and because of that America is the best.

I remember when I was 11 I thought my little league baseball team was the best because I was on the team.

It just holds no water for me as an adult.

I wish I could view things so simply, so black and white like you sometimes. I just can't.

It honestly seems like the willfully ignorant are the happiest.


The irony of you, of all people, calling someone else simplistic or ignorant.  Look at who is supporting what you say -  the guy who thinks 9/11 was an inside job.  Great company to share a group think with.

#2658 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 456 weeks ago

Yea, the whole annulment thing makes me more and more irritated as I think on it.  I don't think Sansa is going to get offed.  I think this is her chance to finally realize that her family comes before her own ambitions.  She claims she learned from Cersei, but who did Cersei put first before all else?  What did LF tell her in Season 5 about what we do to those who hurt the ones we love?  Arya is going to serve as her conscious and remind her that she's a direwolf and a Stark.  The direwolf doesn't concern itself with the opinions of sheep either.  Cersei is the lion.  Dany is the Dragon.  Seems only fitting Sansa step into her role too.

But the whole annulment thing is beyond stupid.  Besides Rhaegar making his children bastards, he alienates Dorne, one of the 2 sides actually defending the Mad King (the other being House Tyrell).  I know Jon's real name cause I read the leaks, but once you all learn it, it'll be even more insulting.  But if Rhaegar needed to have Jon to fulfill the prophecy, what the hell does Jon's last name have to do with anything?  He's meant to make a stand against the Others, not sit on the iron throne.  It's just a cheap way to make Jon more special, despite the fact it's absolutely stupid.  Rhaegar is a Targaryen.  They don't follow any religion, let alone the faith of the seven.  And Lyanna worshiped the old gods.  So why would either care what the High Septon says.  And no matter which way you cut it, it's stupid. 

If Rhaegar won, his father is still king.  Let's say somehow Rhaegar works to replace him as was speculated in the books.  Ok, fine.  Rhaegar is the king - not Jon.  In no story does Jon being the heir to the throne impact his destiny as Azor Ahai.  So it's just stupid fan service so people can cheer when Jon and Dany get married.

#2659 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

TheMole wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

The question you need to ask is would you rather 3 million Koreans die to prevent 300k Americans from dying. It's not even a debate for me.

Can you explain why you feel that the lives of Americans are worth at least 10 times more than the lives of Koreans?

I'm an American.  Sorry if that's not the answer you want, but on a completely abstract level, every American has more potential to make the world a better place than North Koreans. South Koreans too. They've sat for 70 years with guns pointed at them, and have never taken the initiative to defend themselves and end the threat.

In the event of WW3, NK doesn't exist anymore. There's no outcome where NK survives. So take the collateral damage out of their side now, because there's no outcome where they're the victors.

#2660 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago

Couple home runs there, ID.

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