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#2731 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1 year » 956 weeks ago

By deciding to not communicate with the fan base any longer because of the negativity - to me it basically means that he doesn't want to be held accountable for anything that he or the GN'R camp says.

Lets be honest, they are in the business of making $$'s and running a successful business (which is really what Axl has turned GN'R into - a big business).  If that means you have to throw out a comment about a tentative release date to generate a buzz again to ensure decent ticket sales and placate a growing backlash, then you do it.

Now plenty of people clearly didn't understand or choose to ignore the word tentative.  So when the date passed a whole heap of fans whinged and bitched about it.  Personally, I didn't have a problem with them missing the date.  However, if he was completely honest about them aiming to hit that March date, then when it was missed you would presume that the actual date would follow shortly.  The fact that it didn't and we are now 9 months later suggests that the date wasn't never a possibility.

Unfortunately I think most of the small reactive snippets of communication we have had from them have been marketing ploys to keep the fanbase interested and the business ticking along.

At the same time I really think that the poor guy is in a fucked up position.  They have not communicated with fans much at all and have pissed so many of them off, that even now if they started some regular open and honest communication it really may make no difference because so many people are so jaded, they would just continue to pull everything he says apart and whinge and bitch again.

Until he gets this CD monkey off his back I think it's always going to be this way.  Problem is, to get it off his back he needs to release the album and have the public vote on it which means right there and then he is being judged - the enigma and mystique of Chinese Democracy is finally over (if it's not already).  Depending on how it goes down it's either the real beginning of "the new GN'R" or the death of it.  Because of the long running joke that CD has finally become, it can never live up to the hype so he risks a real backlash (if that's possible given the size of the current backlash) when it's released regardless of whether it's the album of the year/decade.  (personally I am sure it will be fantastic - but still not worth 15 years or whatever the wait is).  So this can't honestly look like an attractive thought to him so you continue to stall and preserve the status quo.

His only other "out" is to get the original lineup involved - and that ain't gonna happen.  So he either keeps stringing this thing out even further or releases it and comes back to earth as just another lead singer of regular current band and not the rock god that he once was (or still is or thinks he still is).

#2732 Re: The Garden » Masturbators come together in Copenhagen » 956 weeks ago

Imagine the clean up bill after the event.

#2733 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Some more interesting points in Slash's book that I never knew about » 956 weeks ago

I finally got the book about a week ago and read the whole thing in 2 days (hey I was bored and on holidays then).

My initial reaction when I finished it was that I was a little disappointed.  As I think someone else mentioned, it seemed to lack any real depth.  Generally I didn't feel that I got any great insight into Slash personally - a lot of it seemed quite superficial.

Anthony Bozza - I'm gonna hold him responsible for some of the other shit in there like the continual "but we'll get into that later" comment, as well as the whole timeline thing was really confusing and pissed me off.  I would have though that was his job to at least make sure it was written and structured correctly.

I can't quite put my finger on what's missing with the book.  Either it's a Motely Crue - The Dirt type book, if that's the case then I think it needed a heap more anecdotes in there.  Sure Slash talks about doing drugs and banging chicks but doesn't really go into the details of many of these events much.

So if it wasn't meant to be The Dirt style of book, then perhaps it was supposed to be an outlet for Slash to vent his spleen a bit.  Clearly that didn't really happen - well at least not to the level that you would have expected, which implies to me that he didn't want to burn any bridges to a reunion one day.  I know he said he wanted to "set the record straight" - which he did a bit about how events made him think and feel and untimately lead him to make the decisions that he did.  But it still didn't do that in any real depth IMO.

So if it's not either of those two styles of book then presumably it's a book to try and give us an insight into Slash the person.  Unfortunately after reading it I didn't feel like I had some sort of deeper understanding about the guy, or about his lifes journey etc etc.  Yeah there was some new stuff, but nothing profound - at least for me anyhow.

One interesting thing I got out of it was exactly how disrespectful Axl was to the rest of the band regarding the recording sessions.  I mean, I had read articles about it but hadn't quite realised it was that bad.  That would have been fucken intolerable after a while, never knowing if he was going to rock up, and basically trying to write an album whilst playing secret squirrel communiucating through Doug Goldstein and hardly ever seeing or even speaking directly with Axl.

I was also curious as to what actually scared the crap out of Izzy to make him call his dad and go back to Indiana all of a sudden, Slash didn't really elaborate on this???  It also seemed like when he came back from Indiana and saw Axl going off his nut and throwing spaghetti out the window and trashing everything and he went straight back to Indiana - that sounded like a turning point for Izzy - a confirmation that the whole thing is out of control and he no longer wants to be a part of it?

I would also be interested to hear Axl's version of events as to why it seemed like he didn't want to be around them.  Perhaps how drug fucked they were caused him to cut himself off from them somewhat.

#2734 The Garden » Masturbators come together in Copenhagen » 956 weeks ago

Aussie
Replies: 12

Come on fess up - whoose going to this?


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23 … 09,00.html

Man now I have heared everything 18

I like the pun used in the article title too.

#2735 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash vs. Bill Gates (Welcome To The Jungle....!) » 957 weeks ago

DoubleTalkingJive wrote:
russtcb wrote:

Ok good. I'm glad to see I'm not alone on this.

I totally agree. 


I remember him saying in an interview that he sucked on GH because it's not the same as a real guitar.

I've been told that Slash has said that Guitar Hero has fucked up his guitar playing - so he must have been playing it a fair bit to screw with his muscle memory like that. 14

#2736 Re: GN'R Downloads » VR- New Years » 957 weeks ago

julia (babydolls) wrote:

^ yes please Aussie!  thank you

Here it is - enjoy!


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C74VZ2S7

#2737 Re: The Garden » What Else Are You Doing Right Now? » 957 weeks ago

Im trying to keep cool since it's 40 degrees here (about 105 farheneit), so Im sitting in front of the aircon with a beer watching the cricket!

#2738 Re: GN'R Downloads » VR- New Years » 957 weeks ago

julia (babydolls) wrote:

interestate love song is a nice way to start 2008 - would like to hear them play that live. i've seen STP do it live, be interested in seeing VR playing it too.  had I been in NYC - i would def have been there! thanks for posting Saikin

I've got an accoustic version of them playing interestate love song if you want I can upload that?

But its a demo not a live version.

#2739 The Garden » Beer Top Trivia Question » 957 weeks ago

Aussie
Replies: 1

Ok so I was drinking beers yesterday and playing some Guitar Hero with some mates and the beer I was drinking - Carlton Draught - had trivia questions underneath the cap of the bottle.

The first one I opened had the following question:

Q: Guns N' Roses' music video to November Rain was based on a short story written by whom?

A: Del James

I was pretty surprised to see a Gunners question under there - but particularly one as obscure as this (I obviously knew the answer but shit the video was released bloody years ago).

Obviously I was laughed at severely by my mates as they know of my GN'R obsession.  But I just thought it was a really bizzare trivia question to have underneath a beer cap.

#2740 Re: The Garden » Morons of the Millenium » 957 weeks ago

This recent one in Oz of a footy fan getting a couple of tattoo's of his favourite team is a classic - the article in the link has further links to the pics but read the article as well.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st … 03,00.html

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