misterID wrote:

What policy, though? A healthcare bill he doesn't know what's in it,

  That sounds familiar

then says it's mean, then backs it up, but doesn't know how it works. Twitter is an embarrassment, but is the least of his issues. He's taking credit for an economy that's not his.

every administration does this.  Learn more about how economies/economics work.  Data lags the actual changes.  Then if you don't like the data, you can just change the numbers to whatever you want them to be (see Obama's unemployment numbers).  It's all a big joke on you.

Using the same numbers and sources a few months back he called a lie. Like he said unemployment was actually 30-40%? The deregulating of banks so they can start making unscrupulous/ high risk loans again? How do you defend that? Is there no shame?

You know how you defend it?  You don't take out the loans.  You take personal responsibility for your decisions.  You don't buy the house that's too big.  You don't buy the newest car.  The government shouldn't be telling us what we can and can't do on every single subject.  The problem isn't the loans; it's the people taking out the loans.  You always point the finger at the wrong place.  They aren't going to offer a product if there isn't a market for it.  Business 101. 

You don't seem to understand what most conservatives actually stand for.  You get caught up in the rhetoric because you live off of the one liners from the media.  I don't pretend to know what Liberals stand for on the financial side of things.  It makes no sense at all.  The ONLY thing they accomplish is making more people dependent on the gov't.  I don't see them trotting out their individual Liberal financial successes come election time.  Why is that?  Because there are too few to mention?  It's because it's failed policy.  People don't generally recover from being on welfare because the system makes it easier for them to not even bother trying.  We'll take care of you, but we're going to put you in position to keep failing.  We're going to put you with other people that have failed so you don't see how to do better and you do see that welfare is an accepted way of life.  It becomes normal.  It's the same reason prison doesn't rehabilitate people.  You surround them with the bad and expect something good to come out of it.  That's not how it works.

People need hope.  Hope isn't you can survive, but you'll be poor forever.  That's not hope at all.  That's hopeless.  There are success stories out there.  People have come from nothing and done well for themselves through hard work.  Not Rockefeller well for themselves in most cases, but well. I've shared my story here.  Others have as well.  We didn't all start at the same place nor did we all end at the same place, but we succeeded in having a better life than most people coming from where we came from.  Why?  Because we didn't use the assistance as a way of life.  I can't speak for the others, but it was embarrassing for our family and we did everything we could to not have to rely on it.  I'm not some super genius or anything like that.  I didn't go to college.  I worked hard (even though I am lazy by nature) because I knew that was the only way things would get better.  I (like almost everybody) had opportunities fall into my lap through little more than just luck; the difference is that I took advantage of them.  I learned everything I could from them.  Even jobs I hated taught me things that have benefited me later on.  Your first job isn't supposed to hand you a living wage; it's supposed to teach you the skills you need to get a job that can provide you with a living wage.  But nobody wants to earn anything; they think they deserve it just for being alive.  No.  NO.  NO!  So many people in these pay me $15/hr to flip a burger jobs can't be bothered to show up on time or even wash their hands after using the restroom.  I'm sorry...if you can't even do the basics, you don't deserve the basics much less $15/hr.  If you CAN do the basics (and you actually DO them), you're not going to be flipping burgers forever.  The people begging for $15/hr for a job that isn't worth $15/hr are the same people that are going to be in those jobs forever because they don't have the ability, ambition, or desire to earn more.  Here's the harshest reality for them (even if they aren't replaced by computers): they will still be too poor making $15/hr because someone is always at the bottom and they'll be demanding more again.  It's a never ending cycle that can only change through effort (and usually minimal effort at that).

Blast me.  Don't care.  There's a whole lot of truth in there even if you don't agree with all of it.  Republicans suck because they don't give a shit about the poor.  Democrats suck because they don't care about anything other than making more people poor and adding to their voting base.  It's just a horrible mess that we pay for while fighting among ourselves about why the other side sucks more instead of realizing we're all being played by both of them while they celebrate together behind closed doors.  They both know the answer that is best of us is in the middle ground somewhere, but as long as the money keeps pouring in for them, they couldn't care less about finding a solution for anything.

Blame Obama

Aren't we glad we have such a cool-headed, stable and rational person in office?

James Lofton wrote:

That forum has been unreadable for years. Took it out of my bookmarks many moons ago.

Without its high google placement it would collapse under its own weight.

Haven't checked it in over a year but when I did, it was obvious most of the active accounts were troll accounts.

Its metal sludge without the laughs.

Just curious...I'm kind of a novice as to what the meaning of troll is these days...

By your account, when you say 'troll accounts,' I'm led to believe that it's done with direct intent and consistency. Could you elaborate more? It's still a concept that I don't quite grasp.