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#21 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

If wikileaks was all about making information public, then why aren't they making all of it public?  If you're really interested in having a civil discussion, try to explain that without putting any spin or propaganda out there.

Nice point you make actually. Why is he holding off? Maybe to get more attention? I don't know for sure.

As for political agenda, I don't see one. He has no affiliation. He's barely affiliated to his own country let alone any political stance.

I can't see what agenda he id furthering to be honest. even wikileaks is a non profit organisation.

#22 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

I had actually written a big reply, but ya. You 2 are right this is shit.

#23 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

Oh it's in me alright, but the process of rediscovering it in others can often be difficult. However, the public consciousness about these things have increased pretty dramatically the last decade (a few on this board as well), so I guess it's a matter of reaching the tipping point. Hopefully sooner than later.

But the real problem is that historically people don't rise up on information, they do it in perill. As long as the government can keep delivering those benjamins they remain in a pretty comfortable position, and due to fractional banking it's a hell of a lot easier for them to do so than in older times.

The banks should be the main focus here. They're the real perps, rest are just puppets and hangers on.

"A society that gives up a little freedom for a little security deserve
neither and will lose both."
                    -Benjamin Franklin


I got the perfect thing for you, a little group gathering some steam. Don't worry this isn't my ruthless philosophical violence. It's altogether different.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=gro … 6727255913

#24 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

People don't have all of the information, and if they did, they wouldn't know what to do with it.  That is the sad reality.

Point one: Wikileaks

Point two: Justice

It doesn't have to be the reality. That is up to us

#25 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

Where's your Viking spirit. It's in there somewhere man.

#26 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

polluxlm wrote:

I admire the passion. If my countrymen could only show an ounce of that.

Aw man of course they can. It might be buried deep but it's there man. I mean your living proof !

#27 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

I'm def gonna have a read of some of those links  you posted.

In relation to your link about the prevention of US arms transfers to Israel.
Do you remember a few years back the Irish public found out the US was using Ireland as a launch pad for some of their planes in there war plans for Iraq?. Im pretty sure the people got out and protested to stop that too, our governement agreed to it on the quiet but when the public found out they were having none of it.

I remember that. Some lady from shannon smashed the front of a plane with a hammer or something and they wouldn't take off. They arrested her I think.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/0203/shannon.html

Yup that's it there. 2003. They clamped down on stop overs after that, at least publicly.

Were a neutral country, the woman was dead right

#28 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

Yeah I know sad pretty disgusting. Putting entertainment on a higher pedestal than the current state and trajectory of the world you live in is just not good

#29 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

The fucking Irish stuff amazes me.  There is so much IRA shit going on behind the scenes it ridiculous.

#30 Re: The Garden » Wiki Leaks » 756 weeks ago

IRISH OS1R1S wrote:

This is not aimed at just one person in this thread either, just so you guys know I'm not taking sides.

Cool man, I just really get into this shit. To be honest Ireland have been up to some fucked up shit.


This one though !!!! I like this one


Wikileaks: Ireland prevented US arms transfers to Israel
http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti … ?id=197626

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