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#301 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
James wrote:mitchejw wrote:You're engaging in hysteria....that's it...
This is funny coming from someone who spent four years foaming at the mouth over Donald Trump.
You basically admitted that you're just trolling now.
I'd suggest staying out of this thread from this point forward.
Trump is an indefensible moron...and here is just another situation where he'll not be held accountable...
anyway...the trump era hardened me...all these people so sad about Afghanistan...I tear up when I see a dead baby rabbit in the back yard...
my faith in my fellow American couldn't be lower, and I deeply distrust you all now in moments like these.
Can you try writing in complete sentences? Like, make some attempt at sounding coherent.
Half the things you write don’t relate to what you’re replying to or the topic at hand.
You could try to articulate why you don’t trust people’s reactions to this. You could actually write up a record of the media and the public’s logical inconsistencies. Y’know, actually engage meaningfully in any conversation.
Or.. you could just type like this... I typed once... I’ve typed before... the sky is blue... I saw a dead rabbit...
Fucking drivel.
On the one point you sort of made, Trump is being heavily criticised for the deal he made, now that folk understand the implications of it. He is being held accountable. Biden is being held more accountable because the admin he is in charge of executed this plan.
#302 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-joe-bi … 1629406300
Worth a read if wanting to know how this is being perceived by the US's key allies.
#303 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
Apparently, the white house wiped Trudou's pleas about the disaster on an official phone call. I think this has gone beyond Washington partisan war and went international.
Covering the fallout from Biden's Afghan decision and chaos in the evacuation is NOT the same thing as supporting "forever war," which many of the people peddling that disingenuous line on this website know very well.
— Susan Glasser (@sbg1) August 20, 2021
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Same happened with the readout of his call with Macron, US readout excluded key parts.
#304 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
slashsfro wrote:This is awful. At some point, there needs to be a bipartisan Congressional Investigation into how the fuck this spiraled into Hell on Earth.
It just got worse.
Isis has made threats and our troops are having to change how they will evacuate people from Kabul.
I agree in spirit regarding an investigation...but there's basically no such thing as bipartisan anymore.
Both sides would pretend to investigate....waste a bunch of time and money...and then fall back behind party lines.
It's not just the US though. Expect investigations going to happen in lots of NATO countries. Already a push for one from all sides of politics in the UK. Won't unearth all the intel and information but because of how this has been handled, Biden has bad news days to come for years as a result of this.
#305 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
Within minutes of President #Biden’s speech, @SecDef Austin all but refutes POTUS, telling lawmakers that the #Taliban are not playing ball in #Kabul — including (as has been reported) “beating” US citizens attempting to reach the airport. https://t.co/ynfGLHAwfI
— Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) August 20, 2021
Nothing to see here — just #Afghanistan’s former President Ashraf Ghani’s brother Heshmat Ghani pledging allegiance to the #Taliban.
— Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) August 21, 2021
His witness?
Khalil Haqqani, one of #America’s most wanted terrorists — with decades-long links to #AlQaeda.pic.twitter.com/I3EQqurJzz
NEW - U.S. Embassy in #Kabul says it’s detected “potential security threats" at #Kabul airport & is now “advising U.S. citizens to avoid traveling to the airport and to avoid airport gates at this time."
— Charles Lister (@Charles_Lister) August 21, 2021
#306 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:mitchejw wrote:Oh is twitter now a news source?
Yes, Twitter is a news source. Depending on the poster on twitter depends on how reliable it is.
The ability for news and information to spread rapidly on social media in the early 10s is part of what allowed the Arab Spring to happen.
Not sure why you are dismissing it.
Also, not sure why you are bringing it up when all Id was doing was observing what was happening on the platform. Your post doesn't even make sense.
He's trolling at this point. His post at me was just him trying to antagonize an argument. He's still pushing the spin/talking points about the war and not the exit.
It’s sad really. We’re trying to just talk about a major geopolitical event and a humanitarian crisis, he’s just admitting that he doesn’t care and deciding to troll everyone. Sad and pathetic.
#307 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
misterID wrote:On Twitter progressives are saying Trump was right about the media
Oh is twitter now a news source?
Yes, Twitter is a news source. Depending on the poster on twitter depends on how reliable it is.
The ability for news and information to spread rapidly on social media in the early 10s is part of what allowed the Arab Spring to happen.
Not sure why you are dismissing it.
Also, not sure why you are bringing it up when all Id was doing was observing what was happening on the platform. Your post doesn't even make sense.
#308 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
Axl S wrote:mitchejw wrote:Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan/Syria....it's all the same bullshit...slightly different details
Now pardon me while I go into deep research mode where I learn who the owns Osama's last robe....
None of these countries are "the same bullshit". You write the dumbest shit in all these threads.
You've admitted that you 1) are not informed 2) don't care to be and 3) don't care about any of this.
If that's the case you basically don't have an opinion or insight on any of this that's worth a damn. Now just got to wait for you to reply with some post that completely misses the point.
You're engaging in hysteria....that's it...
Dude, worrying about what's happening to people in a country with +30m population isn't hysteria. It's called having some compassion.
Criticising your country's leaders for 1) the extent of their withdrawal and 2) how they've conducted it isn't hysteria either. It's calling out a major foreign policy failure.
For someone who went on about morality, compassion and humanity during the Trump presidency, you're really showing yourself just to be a massive hypocrite who doesn't give a shit.
#309 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan/Syria....it's all the same bullshit...slightly different details
Now pardon me while I go into deep research mode where I learn who the owns Osama's last robe....
None of these countries are "the same bullshit". You write the dumbest shit in all these threads.
You've admitted that you 1) are not informed 2) don't care to be and 3) don't care about any of this.
If that's the case you basically don't have an opinion or insight on any of this that's worth a damn. Now just got to wait for you to reply with some post that completely misses the point.
#310 Re: The Garden » Taliban control of Afghanistan on the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 » 266 weeks ago
How are they justifying not going in to help Americans get to the airport while the British do everything in their power to get their people out?
I am concerned that this is making us, the British, look competent. Thinking this is a mistake.
Our Foreign Secretary (your equivalent of Secretary of State) was on holiday and only returned on Sunday. During his holiday a lot of key shit that the British needed to do for the evac got missed.
