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#3091 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:That's why I have credibility. I call out the bullshit regardless of party.
You're so full of shit. Seriously, just bursting at the seams.
Dude, when a republican is in office, you go full retard. When a Democrat is in office, you can't bring yourself to say an unkind word. You railed on about 9/11 being an inside job and demanded Bush's head every day regarding the war. Then when Obama was elected, you went utterly silent on the issues. I'll give you $50 via paypal or to a charity of your choosing if you can link me 5 posts where you condemned Obama during his 8 years. If you seriously couldn't find 5 things he did that you disagreed with, it's obvious which one of us is a partisan hack and full of shit. I'll be waiting for these messages of you bitching about Obama with 1/4 of the ferocity you lashed out at Bush or Trump.
#3092 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
This isn't day one. The media also ran the piss story which has no bearing in truth. Even Obama dismissed it and asked why they'd present him with tabloid trash.
All the leaks and not a single FBI agent leaking information or hiding behind a sihoulette on camera.
You keep reading gossip and swear it's true. Show me a mainstream article that states they have credible sources of an actual investigation. Not that they casually looked at behavior and dismissed it. An article where they say there was probable cause found and a deeper investigation is ongoing. Something from The NY Times or Washington Post will be fine. Mother Jones or Salon aren't real journalist so you'll have to stick with the credible sources.
Don't link 20 different articles and use your internet sleuthing to claim you're the only one to connect the dots. If the Times or Post can't make that argument in one article, it doesn't exist.
#3093 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
I guess my question is this: If there was nothing there. No evidence, no recorded phone calls, no emails, no texts etc... Don't you think the FBI would've just dropped the case? Just let it go, close the books, close the case, nothing there. Do you people honestly think the FBI is just sour over this and pushing and leaking these tidbits with no ultimate big story at the end? Just, 'Well, we did tap into him, he had a few meetings, so THAT looks bad. But no, there's nothing else. That was it."
Like, of course they were wiretapping him at this point. And, with that said, it's pretty certain there will be evidence of something nasty coming out of this. I mean, come on.
Do you have any evidence of an FBI investigation? Don't you think with all the "leaks" if there was anything of actual value or was damaging other than Session met in public with the Russian ambassador twice, the media would be all over it? Don't you think some Democrat on the Armed Services or Intelligence committees would have come forward?
Instead we get Democrats with no access to intel looking for their 5 minutes of camera time making claims they can't substantiate or are clearly just opinion.
All of your theories require Trump's cabinet and high ranking elected officials to be the worst of humanity. Willing to stick up for a man that they know worked with a foreign government to overturn the US election. And it also requires Democrats to be completely inept and incompetent dipshits so clueless as to what was occurring they were unable to document any of it.
#3094 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:That depends...will you be calling for all the birthers (including Trump himself) for prison time as well?
No...of course you won't....because you were cool with all of this when it started.
Yea, because I wasn't a vocal critic of Trump's from the start for this very reason. You can't go back 5 years and find posts from me condemning both the birthers and tea party. That's why I have credibility. I call out the bullshit regardless of party.
That wasn't the question...
Does anyone else see how he does that? I don't know if it's intentional or he is unaware - but very consistently he uses this very subtle argument strategy where the frame of the conversation changes.
It's very subtle...that's why it's effective.
He asks very direct question.
One responds in kind.
Conversation topic shifts.
Are you off your meds? You said I was ok with the birther shit. I wasn't. Never have been, and it's the primary reason I didn't vote for Trump.
You repeatedly come in here and post nonsense and things that are demonstrably false. (Your most recent claim on free college costing us less than defense or accusing me with being ok or even supportive of the birther bullshit). Then when called on it, rather than acknowledge you were wrong, you continue on full speed.
If you knew anything about libel laws you'd know the gold standard is a reasonable person would have to believe it to be libelous. Since I linked a study months ago that showed something like 25% of Republicans ever believed it, that means at best 1/8 of the country thought there was merit to it. Probably more like 1/10. So no, obviously a reasonable person wouldn't buy that. But I don't think John (I had my skull cracked 50 years ago and haven't done shit since) Lewis should be penalized with libel. PASnow is the one who brought up libel. Try to keep up with the discussion.
#3095 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:Yes, the liberal news site known as "https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" posting crazy rants & unfounded libelous accusations.
So if Trump is never found guilty of colluding with Russia, will you be ok with suing all the Democratic congressmen and women who skipped his inauguration saying he worked with Russia to cheat Clinton?
That depends...will you be calling for all the birthers (including Trump himself) for prison time as well?
No...of course you won't....because you were cool with all of this when it started.
Yea, because I wasn't a vocal critic of Trump's from the start for this very reason. You can't go back 5 years and find posts from me condemning both the birthers and tea party. That's why I have credibility. I call out the bullshit regardless of party.
#3096 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:There's a lot to be learned by being an impartial observer. You guys quote all these liberal think tanks and in turn accuse anyone that disagrees of quoting conservative sites.
Yes, the liberal news site known as "https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" posting crazy rants & unfounded libelous accusations.
So if Trump is never found guilty of colluding with Russia, will you be ok with suing all the Democratic congressmen and women who skipped his inauguration saying he worked with Russia to cheat Clinton?
#3097 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:Not sure what that has to do with anything...as usual...you did not explain anything.
Paying for college is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on military - but I know you all to well RF, we can never spend enough on military. There's nothing more American than spending more on our military than the next 12 countries combined.
That you actually believe that shows how ignorant on the issues you truly are. That you vote based of this ignorance is horrifying.
Here's a tip, Bernie's own calculation at the cost of providing free college is much, much higher than our defense budget, which is required by the constitution.You don't know my thoughts on military spending. I've made it clear I want it cut numerous times. But at this point there's really no reason to continue with you because you are painfully unaware of the costs of the programs you support, and accuse others of being ignorant. Just quit talking. You embarrass those who share your ends but actually understand the means.
It's just simply not true. So many other countries in the world do this. You act like we are reinventing the wheel here. The fact that you are ignorant that we spend a shit ton on military cost in this country shows your ignorance not mine.
And sounds like you don't know either the Trump plans on greatly increasing the amount we spend on military. It sounds to me like you are the one out of the loop.
No, I'm well aware trump wants to increase spending by 60 Billion. I don't agree with it, but I'm aware of it. But you have no idea what "free" college would cost in the US and how much we spend on the military. Other nations also have a 50% income tax and charge $7 a gallon for gas.
All of that would involve changing our economy because others can't "adapt", as you put it.
Sorry for interrupting the circle jerk. I'm going to return to lurking while the 4 of you come up with new outrages every day.
#3098 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:Wait, wait, wait....who the fuck are you again?!
You've only posted here maybe a half dozen times over the past 4 months and it's always to come here and remind us all of your superior intellect and political prowess. Yet, if we erased all the content that's just about you blowing your own horn, there would be nothing left.
Are you one of those people who owns a giant pick-up truck with TWO American flags hanging off the back? You know...just to let all those liberals know how much more of an American you are?
I'll bet you were one of those calling for Obama's birth certificate for years. But now ridicule people for wanting to know the truth about Russian ties....
Or maybe you're just an angry white guy who would rather change the rules of the entire economy than obtain news skill and adapt to the changing world.
Haha. That is hysterical coming from the Democrat Bernie supporter. The guys asking for a $15 minimum wage, basic income, free college.
Not sure what that has to do with anything...as usual...you did not explain anything.
Paying for college is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on military - but I know you all to well RF, we can never spend enough on military. There's nothing more American than spending more on our military than the next 12 countries combined.
That you actually believe that shows how ignorant on the issues you truly are. That you vote based of this ignorance is horrifying.
Here's a tip, Bernie's own calculation at the cost of providing free college is much, much higher than our defense budget, which is required by the constitution.
You don't know my thoughts on military spending. I've made it clear I want it cut numerous times. But at this point there's really no reason to continue with you because you are painfully unaware of the costs of the programs you support, and accuse others of being ignorant. Just quit talking. You embarrass those who share your ends but actually understand the means.
#3099 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:This thread is such a pile of shit and I haven't logged in for 5 weeks. I'm sure it's still my fault though, right?
This needs to be hidden from visitors. It's an embarrassment to the site. It should have been left closed instead of being restarted worse than it was before.
Wait, wait, wait....who the fuck are you again?!
You've only posted here maybe a half dozen times over the past 4 months and it's always to come here and remind us all of your superior intellect and political prowess. Yet, if we erased all the content that's just about you blowing your own horn, there would be nothing left.
Are you one of those people who owns a giant pick-up truck with TWO American flags hanging off the back? You know...just to let all those liberals know how much more of an American you are?
I'll bet you were one of those calling for Obama's birth certificate for years. But now ridicule people for wanting to know the truth about Russian ties....
Or maybe you're just an angry white guy who would rather change the rules of the entire economy than obtain news skill and adapt to the changing world.
Haha. That is hysterical coming from the Democrat Bernie supporter. The guys asking for a $15 minimum wage, basic income, free college.
#3100 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:Gibberish, jibberish, jibber-jabber and gobbledygook refer to speech or other use of language that is nonsense, or that appears to be nonsense. It may include speech sounds that are not actual words,[1] or forms such as language games or highly specialized jargon that seems non-sensical to outsiders.[2] Gibberish should not be confused with literary nonsense such as that used in the poem "Jabberwocky" by Lewis Carroll.
Yes, that covers most of your posts. Conspiracies abound and no evidence is necessary.
My god...what does it take for you to pull your head out of the ground?
You are straight up delusional.
Chief Trump apologist chooses to ignore everything. Even if some things are proven and some are yet to be proven...Trump just found out he was wire tapped - self admitted...
Crickets from you RF.
A judge approved Trump wire taps. Can't wait to see how you spin this...
Yea, I'm waiting to get actual information from reputable sites and not liberal blogs you're accustomed to everytime you have a new conspiracy that falls apart within 48 hours. Obama murdered a US Citizen and believed he had the power to do so. Him wiretapping his opponent doesn't seem so far fetched in that light.
