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#3101 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:It is shocking, but that's an apt statement.
Or have you all yelled at the wind for so long, you don't have a compass?
Gibberish, jibberish, jibber-jabber and gobbledygook refer to speech or other use of language that is nonsense, or that appears to be nonsense. It may include speech sounds that are not actual words,[1] or forms such as language games or highly specialized jargon that seems non-sensical to outsiders.[2] Gibberish should not be confused with literary nonsense such as that used in the poem "Jabberwocky" by Lewis Carroll.
Yes, that covers most of your posts. Conspiracies abound and no evidence is necessary.
#3102 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Well, the guy they caught for calling in Bomb Threats to the Jewish Community Centers is who the left hoped it was.
Ellison and other NOI supporters?
#3103 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
misterID wrote:Trump's awfulness is repairing Bush's reputation. Hilarious.
It is shocking, but that's an apt statement.
Or have you all yelled at the wind for so long, you don't have a compass?
#3104 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
What are you suggesting about Snowden? In what way would Snowden coming back help Trump? He's going to do exactly what Obama wanted, and prosecute. But the left will rile up half the country on whether Snowden is a hero. More chaos that only benefits the far left and divides the country further. Snowden remaining in exhile is much more beneficial to whomever is in power in both the US and Russia. The US's most famous traitor is in exhile, under Russian surveillance. And Russia has the man who revealed the corruption and invasion of US surveillance making them a hypocrite at some of Russians actions.
So the intelligence companies are in revolt? That's positive? The agencies who fucked up on 9/11? The agencies who fucked up on WMDs? The agencies who missed ISIS? Libya, Egypt? Hamas being elected in Palestine? The agencies that have missed so much, but have tremendous power and have been caught violating the 4th amendment are in open revolt against the man who is threatening to cut their bureaucracy? You think this is anything shirt if the most historic undermining of Presidential authority in history. You can't find a situation this severe than Jackson and the other branches in the 1820s.
None of your proposed conspiracies pass the basic logic test. None of these outcomes in anyway benefit Trump, so why would he enact them?
#3105 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Raw vote counts matter in the fact that the raw frequency of voters clearly don't support Trump....physical geography be damned...EC be damned...
You cannot pretend that 3 million more voters exist...
You cannot pretend that people are being accurately represented with such wide discrepancies...
That's why the likely voters approval ratings matter. Because if 55% of likely voters approve of Trump, that creates a very strong argument that if the vote were held today, Trump would have a plurality. Whom do you all know that would support that argument?
The EV is all that matters. The popular vote is nice and hopefully always aligns because it means the country isn't so Balkanized. But when 55% of likely voters approve, that further undercuts the narrative that voters don't want Trump in.
But bitching about the PV or thinking it has any factor in what happens for the next 2 years is useless. It has no authority and it's not factored into anything other than people throwing tantrums because they don't like the rules.
#3106 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
And your entire argument ignores the electoral college. Democrats got more votes for Senate because the most heavily populated states lean Democratic. In California, it's extremely so.
You can bitch about gerrymandering, but both sides are equal of this. And this addresses nothing about why Republicans control 31 governorships and the majority of state houses where gerrymandering has no effect.
The presidential election is decided by EVs. Not the popular vote. It's not by accident, but by design. Same for the Senate. Your opinion isn't relevant. Wyoming has the same amount of Senators as California.
There has been a push to the right. The states reflect this. Brexit reflects it. Le Penn represents this. Merkel's weakened status reflects this. Only in the countries that have no real influence but enjoy all the protection and comfort afforded to their geographic location next to superpowers (Canada, Sweden, etc.) have you seen any push to the left. And we've seen how well Sweden is doing with its embracemrnt of multiculturalism. We'll see how Canada fairs when Mexican immigrants and refugees leave the US if reports are true.
We've seen how powerful the media is. How it's selective reporting turned the country against Iraq and against Bush. How it carried Obama through a 2nd term, and how they openly admitted refusing to report the truth on Hillary. Despite trying to make every breath Trump exhaled for 15 months a joke, they failed. They lost their control, and now they're throwing tantrums that Trump doesn't say "thank you" after they try to shove their dicks down his throat. The DNC has had the media holding their hand since the mid 90s. Remember the numerous emails from the major news outlets coordinating stories with Clinton in the hacks? This isn't right wing conspiracy anymore.
Sessions shakes someone's hand at a speech and the media runs it like like they found a tape of Sessions and Putin planning out the attacks. And Pelosi is front and center calling for him to resign. It's a fucking farce and you can only cry wolf so many times before people just shut you out. That's why Trumps favorability among likely voters (key word here Mitch is "likely voters) continues to rise. The people actually participating in the process, the people engaged, overwhelmingly recognize the tantrum being thrown, and it's not from Trump.
That's why I get so irritated when people whom I know are intelligent, fall for the bait and come here posting nonsense about piss videos and conspiracies the very articles they link don't support.
The Democrats are weakened and it's entirely self inflicted. The outrage and victim shit doesn't work. And that's all that is being offered. So finding out what we really should be outraged about isn't possible from them until they come back down to reality.
#3107 Re: The Garden » The Rant Thread » 480 weeks ago
See what happens when you let Mitch shit post?
#3108 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
This is the perfect time to get a better AG and ditch sessions.
Why? He is perfectly qualified and if he were to resign, the DNC would claim it was evidence of collusion and demand more people resign. Let them look like the idiots from the leftovers dressed in white, never mind their own party is the one who opposed women's suffrage. They're a joke and will continue to be so until they come up with real ideas that benefit everyday Americans and not illegals or refugees.
#3109 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:Who is having yet another temper tantrum here? And don't call me a liar. Be a grown up and look it up. It's not hard. I haven't screamed foul, I have never mentioned anything about Jewish cemeteries. You're the one here lying, making up arguments, continuing to get riled up over a guy you didn't vote for who is painfully obviously either compromised by Russia or is really that much of a greedy, self absorbed idiot with a disturbing infatuation with Putin.
Get the fuck out of here. You come in here spouting stupidity I normally only expect to hear from Mitch. You provide no evidence to support your claims. Be a grown up. Answer the fucking question. How did Sessions misrepresent himself. How did he lie under oath. If you can't answer that, you need to shut up and apologize. I'll be waiting for the apology. Don't be a retard like Mitch. You can actually read, so do so.
What exactly did I lie about? And while you're at it, please show me my posts about Jewish cemeteries. Thanks.
Sessions pulled a Clinton and said he answered in what he believe to be honest, yet he moved to get Clinton impeached. I don't even think its THAT big of a deal, only that again there's a Russia connection and he wanted to impeach Clinton for not telling the truth under oath. You're having a complete breakdown over this and acting like a petulant child.
What question was Sessions asked? What did he answer? I'm not interested in liberal conspiracy theories. I'm interested in facts. If you're going to say the AG should resign, you need more than your gut feeling. Sessions didn't lie, but you claiming he did is either a partisan lie or complete ignorance.
And I said your party. The one you fervently defend and think has a modicum of integrity or consistency.
#3110 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:Who is having yet another temper tantrum here? And don't call me a liar. Be a grown up and look it up. It's not hard. I haven't screamed foul, I have never mentioned anything about Jewish cemeteries. You're the one here lying, making up arguments, continuing to get riled up over a guy you didn't vote for who is painfully obviously either compromised by Russia or is really that much of a greedy, self absorbed idiot with a disturbing infatuation with Putin.
Get the fuck out of here. You come in here spouting stupidity I normally only expect to hear from Mitch. You provide no evidence to support your claims. Be a grown up. Answer the fucking question. How did Sessions misrepresent himself. How did he lie under oath. If you can't answer that, you need to shut up and apologize. I'll be waiting for the apology. Don't be a retard like Mitch. You can actually read, so do so.
You know what I'm tired of?
I'm tired of you demanding responses and answers from other people in this thread, yet, somehow never be held to the same account.
It's simply a way to control the narrative and frame the argument.
See...you only acknowledge who/what you want to...and hide behind this idea that you're the only one who does the research and has the facts....
But simultaneously use words like "retard" and use bullying tactics.
You destroy your own credibility.
You know what I'm tired of? You wasting everyone's time bothering to post. Your last post was literally "I don't know how to respond, so I won't". Thanks for the contribution to the discussion. Posting just to post. I could give a fuck what you think or say because I have zero respect for your intelligence. You come around here every few days claiming "this is it!" because your hooked on phonics website has a new conspiracy. Anyone who cared to be taken seriously would be embarrassed by your track record of accuracy. You can't formulate a coherent thought and lack any factual data to back up your opinions, then get angry and post nonsense to get a few thumbs up from the others who know they can't defend their opinions.
You have no credibility. Just do everyone a favor and only post when you're certain you're adding truth and something new to the conversation.

