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#3161 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:Oh, and he had a very rushed Executive Order turned down by the courts.
We'll see. Obama spent years and had his struck down. Unfortunately for you guys, the same logic the liberal justices used to support his EO, requires them to support Trump's EO too.
Except they did....and it had nothing to do with the merit....it was the incompetence of the person/people who wrote it....
Mitch, just stop. It's obvious you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You've become nothing more than the cheering section for the other 2 or 3 posters who actually read and have at least some understanding of what's going on.
You're embarrassing yourself. Judges are the ones in robes behind a bench. They're not the people you see on that square device with all the moving colors you like. And since I know you struggle with how our form of government works, the only judges who have final say are the ones who reside in that building in D.C. The judge you went to see for waiving your dick at a small child isn't the one who dictates the power of the president.
#3162 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
Oh, and he had a very rushed Executive Order turned down by the courts.
We'll see. Obama spent years and had his struck down. Unfortunately for you guys, the same logic the liberal justices used to support his EO, requires them to support Trump's EO too.
#3163 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_co … rack_feb16
55% approval among likely voters.
#3164 Re: The Sunset Strip » HBO's A Game of Thrones » 482 weeks ago
Have they announced Season 7 premiere date yet?
All signs point to late June.
I don't know if any of you follow Watchers on the Wall, but season 7 is going to be quite entertaining. Shame the entire plot leaked so early.
#3165 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:Yeah I'm not trying to make it out to be a Resignation issue, but it's not great let's just say that.
Oh, and this happened to Labor Cabinet pick Puzder, who coincidentally was canned today: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/p … bor-235030
You can't write this circus.
He withdrew because the votes weren't there. Claims from an estranged wife in makeup 27 years ago weren't a factor. But continue to make shit up.
The votes weren't there because he beat his wife. The Politico article was released overnight & he withdraws the same day?? Are you not seeing the connection.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos … 69dafdfff8
Post said it had to do with him hiring an illegal. No one gives a shit what an estranged spouse said on Oprah wearing a costume, that she later retracted under oath. He didn't have the votes.
#3166 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
Yeah I'm not trying to make it out to be a Resignation issue, but it's not great let's just say that.
Oh, and this happened to Labor Cabinet pick Puzder, who coincidentally was canned today: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/p … bor-235030
You can't write this circus.
He withdrew because the votes weren't there. Claims from an estranged wife in makeup 27 years ago weren't a factor. But continue to make shit up.
#3167 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
Also, I don't think the meat of the story is solely that there is 'proof Trump Aides discussed &/or requested hacking"with Russia but that they were in contact with Russia in the first place?! I think that's the debate & the raising of the alarm bells.
I think, again, you're not really seeing the forrest thru the trees.
What are the alarm bells if the story isn't about Trump's campaign coordinating with Russia? We have actual evidence of conspiracy with another politician you loved. We now have an intelligence agency recording phone calls if a US citizen and leaking that to the media. Instead of having an AG having secret meetings with the husband of someone under investigation.
I see the forest just fine. A bunch of people upset they lost and a for profit media that runs headlines to grab revenue with no substance to support said headline. If only you were consistent on conspiracy, Clinton never would have been able to run. But you guys aren't consistent which is why you'll demand Trumo take action against Russia (though you and your favorite media sites conveniently never recommend a course of action to take) while your party ignored Russia for 8 years when it was in a position to actually do something and assume ownership when the fickle public lost interest.
#3168 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/831705828268896256
lol, Randall "it's just tiny news story. Nothing to be concerned with" -- Republicans in 1972
You guys provide an article that says 7 sentences in "there is no evidence" but want to focus on what you imagined took place.
You beleive everything the right says, don't you? Does that include Mike Pence saying Mike 'homeboy military bud' Flynn NEVER discussed sanctions with Russia? Cause, ya know, only a few days into his role as VP that was what was considered "fact". Mike Flynn, the same dipshit who spead the moronic-should-be-imprisoned-its-so-stupid Hillary Clinton/Pizza shop story. How that guy & Petraeus are still considered military tops is just an embarrassment to our military. Surely we have more capable people out of there than those bumbling idiots.
If Flynn lied to Trump, I have no issues with him resigning. I'm consistent in this. Government officials have to be honest. If he violated the law, he should be appropriately punished. I don't know what was discussed in his calls (neither do any of you) but I don't believe discussing future policy is a violation. And many scholars not writing for Media Matters or Think Progress agree. If you don't think Clinton or her designates had conversations with leaders the day of the election, I have a bridge to sell you.
But I met Petraeus. The man is a god damn hero who has done more and sacrificed more for this country than Clinton, Obama, Trump, Pelosi, McConnel and Schumer will ever meet. He cheated on his wife and shared classified info with someone who had a Top Secret clearance. He owned his mistake, didn't lie about it or try to joke about it. He paid his fine and resigned in embarrassment.
That's the difference between him and someone else. He owned it and did the honorable thing. He didn't lawyer up and dispatch aides to wipe all evidence after he was subpoenaed. Then try to piss on the public's shoes and tell them it's raining. The man is a fucking hero who should be remembered favorably 100 years from now.
#3169 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 482 weeks ago
https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/831705828268896256
lol, Randall "it's just tiny news story. Nothing to be concerned with" -- Republicans in 1972
Still waiting for the evidence. Please provide proof that Trump or anyone on his team conspired with Russia. Until then, feel free to create an alternative reality.
Just don't go down the Mitch path. Hopefully someday he realizes how embarrassing his comments are.
You guys provide an article that says 7 sentences in "there is no evidence" but want to focus on what you imagined took place.
When I discuss fantasy, I prefer it to be good fantasy. So if you want to discuss Game if Thrones, Star Wars or The Dark Tower, let me know.
#3170 Re: The Sunset Strip » Metallica new song 'Hardwired', new album Nov. 18th » 482 weeks ago
I just bought VIP tickets to Metallica in Philly. First time I've ever done this, so I'm interested to see if it ends up being worth the cost.
