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#3181 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
I didn't say there were 3 million illegal votes. I'm not defending Trump's claim. All I'm saying is that I agree that we should audit our election systems, identify gaps, and create controls to mitigate abuse, fraud and error. I just also happen to believe that requiring ID solves most issues. Requiring ID creates a single variable to use to look at voting metrics that verifies data integrity.
#3182 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/ … gally.html
But got forbid people need a state ID to vote. Nothing to see hear folks.
Nothing to see indeed...
Roughly 8.5 million votes cast in Texas/one case of confirmed voter fraud.
.000000125% of voters.
No, those are the 2 we know of cause they were retarded. Just because one dude got arrested after holding up a liquor waiting on an Uber, doesn't mean that's the only case of liquor store robbery that occurred. There is no detailed audit performed after an election to validate the appropriateness of votes. Or do you think that districts that had more votes tallied than voters (Detroit) don't deserve a complete audit to understand why.
#3183 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/ … gally.html
But got forbid people need a state ID to vote. Nothing to see hear folks.
#3184 Re: The Garden » Channel 4 news segment on UK Alt Right Internet trolls » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:AtariLegend wrote:Got to be a parody right?
Nothing says intelligent, informed journalism like calling The Bell Curve "unscientific" (she obviously isn't familiar with the book)
Thanks for confirming my expectation of you!
Have you even read the Bell Curve? Even know it existed? Understand why it's stupid for white supremacist to use as some evidence of their personal superiority?
Edit: I'm going to assume you haven't nor had any idea what the book is about or the credentials of the authors. You're perfectly content to read a headline and accept all your assumptions as accurate. You must be a very successful person.
#3185 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/02/09/gran … ter-fraud/
No voter fraud at all. Illegals certainly wouldn't try to vote. 
#3186 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Some lawyer should sue the US on behalf the girl who was a US citizen in the Yemen raid. They harmed her and apparently due process applies to foreigners. Bring the entire case to its knees. Hopefully Gorsuch is approved before it reaches SCOTUS, though I'm very eager to see the 4 justices strike this down after approving the massive expansion of authority over immigration they thought Obama had.
#3187 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
I like Nevada, but I also think flyover country has the most beautiful scenery. Seattle was the perfect balance for me.
#3188 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Me thinks you need to retake English. The 'and' without a comma implies the addition of both. You know "the largest audience both in person, and around the world" would imply each on their own was the largest. The comma was absent. So even the author who transcribed their comments made that distinction.
But keeping focusing on nonsense like this. The gotcha stuff doesn't work.
#3189 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:1.) Alternative Facts - Claims that are also true and portray a better picture for a party. E.g. "Trump had more people watching his inauguration (including TV and the internet) than any other President." Compared to "Trump has half the attendance to his inauguration as Obama had in '09."
Both are concurrently true, but provide an oppositional narrative. That's "alternative facts." "The US spends more per student than any other country" and "The US ranks towards the bottom in education among top tier nations" are alternative facts.
Uggh, I can't even get thru the rest, because now you're doing revisionist history. She wasn't implying "TV and the internet"..... She was defending Sean Spicer, and I've pasted Sean Spicers comments, verbatim, below:
"Photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way, in one particular Tweet, to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the National Mall," Spicer said on Jan. 21. "That was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period. Both in person and around the globe."
Don't make excuses and change things to fit your argument.
Read the last sentence from your article quote.
#3190 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:Well, for starters Nordstroms employes THOUSANDS of workers, and if the President implys a wrondoing and with that a boycott, that store and employees can be impacted. Same with competitor shoes, I don't know ladies shoe lines but if the WH solicits people to BUY IVANKA, those customers are less likely to buy those other brands, hurting their sales and employees. It's a terrible road to travel to have the President telling us to buy his family brand. If DSW sells them, but Kohls & Target does not, are they left out in the cold?? We're only 3 weeks in, this isn't a scandal, it's a mistake.
And yes she should be fired. Period.
I agree Nordstrom's should no way be penalized. But the rabid media turned the simple fact Ivanka's shit doesn't sell, so Nordstrom's didn't want to carry it, to Nordstrom's ends Ivanka's deal because of refugees.
The media created a story from nothing. Conway fucked up, but it's not like she gave an infomercial. I don't think she should be fired over this, but should apologize and ensure it doesn't happen again. Remember that whole intent thing that saved Clinton from being prosecuted? It applies here too.
Bullshit, she's thed first daughter, she's front and center, she is an advisor, she's tied to him and his policies, she's going to get heightened scrutiny. If they don't like it he shoulodnt have run for president. Stop blaming the media for evertything. It comes with the job.
A story completely fabricated from the start (Nordstrom dropped her cause of the EO) gets blamed on the media.
