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#3201 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Not a single religion was born in the US - except consumerism
Native American tribes would disagree. But you know full well that the European settlers who made America what it is today, brought Christianity with them.
But let's continue to pretend that Christianity isn't not only the dominant religion (80%+) today, but the religion of 99.9% of the people who built this country. Voodoo is more American than Islam.
#3202 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Here's a fun fact: Trump signed an executive order appointing Steve Bannon to NSC, without knowing that was actually what he was doing. He found out about it afterwards.
I think you're confused on the definition of fact and rumor.
#3203 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:I was going to ask you about them SG, I remember you saying you were in construction. Yeah I checked out their website and they seem more industrial for large contracting jobs, which I think HD & Lowes dabble in, but their revenue is likely largely from ham & eggers & weekend warriors doing fix it ups and small general contractor gigs. Seems like a well run, family owned business which is good. Non-Corporate. There's a few large companies like that in PA, Yuengling (beer, owner came out in support of Trump) and Wawa (love Wawa. Awesome quick stop stores)
You live on the East side of the state. In Pittsburgh they just have sheetz.
What do you mean "sheetz". I love Pittsburgh.
Wawa is a convenient store chain around Philly. They make sandwiches and other quick food items and are very popular. They don't have wawa on the west side of the state. They have Sheetz, another convienient store chain that sells sandwiches.
#3204 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
I was going to ask you about them SG, I remember you saying you were in construction. Yeah I checked out their website and they seem more industrial for large contracting jobs, which I think HD & Lowes dabble in, but their revenue is likely largely from ham & eggers & weekend warriors doing fix it ups and small general contractor gigs. Seems like a well run, family owned business which is good. Non-Corporate. There's a few large companies like that in PA, Yuengling (beer, owner came out in support of Trump) and Wawa (love Wawa. Awesome quick stop stores)
You live on the East side of the state. In Pittsburgh they just have sheetz.
#3205 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
misterID wrote:They were literally trying to recruit illegal immigrants to go to work for them. What a tool.
Didn't get that message at all. I thought it was a pro legal immigration ad saying we will always welcome those with a will to better themselves or something
Yea, cause legal immigrants are known for walking through unpaved terrain, crossing rivers, climbing on trains, rationing water as they walk through the desert.
It was clearly a beacon to illegals that while the government may put up a wall, there's plenty of people willing to pay Jorge down at Home Depot to do their patio for 2k less than the legit dude.
Honestly it's kind of offensive to portray illegal immigrants as people leaving abject poverty living in squalor. Sure some fit that mold, but it inaccurately portrays the conditions most are leaving.
#3206 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Here's the legal definition of terrorism in the US:
Title 22 of the U.S. Code, Section 2656f(d) defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.” [1]
What listed here disqualifies Canada?
Nothing, but the shooting was hardly undereported. It was the main story for 48 hours. A white guy shooting up a mosque in Canada isn't terrorism. It's murder. And a hate crime under US law. I don't know enough to speak on Canadian law, but I'd assume there as well. We sentenced Roof to death. What will our northern neighbors do?
My point is we have to quit calling every act terrorism when there are already pre-existing and defined labeled to identify them.
#3207 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Contact his attorneys then. He was wrongly charged with a federal hate crime. We need to try him as a domestic terrorist and send him to GITMO.
#3208 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Here's the legal definition of terrorism in the US:
Title 22 of the U.S. Code, Section 2656f(d) defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.” [1]
#3209 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:I thinks you're confused on the definition of terror like you are on locker room banter. (Amazing you actually brought Lena Dunham into this topic)
Terrorist Attack
Noun 1. terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aimsterrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
coup de main, surprise attack - an attack without warningSo how was what Dylan Roof did terrorism under that definition?
a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims,
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature
What were his political or religious aims?
#3210 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 483 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Me thinks you're confused on the definition of terror. I know co-opting words is the in thing to do with the left. Rape now means Lena Dunham going back to someone's house and him not asking before he put his fingers inside of her. But terrorism is linked to foreign ideologies trying to use fear and violence to change a group. Islam isn't an American religion, regardless of all the melting pot bullshit you've been told. Also, what the fuck does an attack in Canada have to do with America. And how was that not reported?
I thinks you're confused on the definition of terror like you are on locker room banter. (Amazing you actually brought Lena Dunham into this topic)
Terrorist Attack
Noun 1. terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aimsterrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims
act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
coup de main, surprise attack - an attack without warning
So how was what Dylan Roof did terrorism under that definition?
