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#3241 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

Part of me hopes after they get Trumps cabinet in, they revert the rules back to before Reid changed them.  Maybe federal judges can have a lower threshold, but cabinet secretaries deserve the same scrutiny as SOCTUS nominees.

#3242 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
bigbri wrote:

To be factual, it was 11 months left in Obama's term.

And 9 months until he was a lame duck.

Still, Garland should have gotten a hearing. He would have lost, but still.

That's correct, 11 months. Thanks.

Dems should make them go nuclear. One, the consequences. Two, Trump could do a whole lot worse with this nominee. A LOT worse.


No, I am adamantly against them going nuclear.  I opposed it when Reid did it and I oppose it now.  I have no problem with the GOP using the rules created by Democrats now that they're in power.  But this shit needs to end.  No one filibustered any of Obama's Court nominees and Sotomayor was a fucking nightmare (Kegan not so much).  If the court has to stay at 8 justices, so be it.  But I don't want the filibuster to be done away with.  It's a very important tool.  They should just require the Democrats willing to filibuster to actually stand there until they collapse, then have a vote.

#3243 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
bigbri wrote:

If that's all that vote no, Pence breaks the tie.

If Sessions is appointed first, and I think he will. That leaves one less Republican seat. Has LA wrapped up they're election yet?  If not the GOP only has 51 senators. 

Of course this all assumes not a single Democrat will back her.

Are you talking about this race? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati … /95289104/


"BATON ROUGE, La. — Republican John Kennedy will be Louisiana's next U.S. Senator after winning Saturday's election against Democrat Foster Campbell."

At any rate, I still think she'll squeak by.

Yea. That's it. For some reason I didn't think it was until February.

#3244 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-republic … 38305.html

and 2 Senate Republicans just stopped Devos from being Education Secretary.  Take a deep breath and relax.  Now we'll get a real education secretary who can coherently speak.

If that's all that vote no, Pence breaks the tie.

If Sessions is appointed first, and I think he will, that leaves one less Republican seat. Has LA wrapped up their election yet?  If not the GOP only has 51 senators. 

Of course this all assumes not a single Democrat will back her.

#3245 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-republic … 38305.html

and 2 Senate Republicans just stopped Devos from being Education Secretary.  Take a deep breath and relax.  Now we'll get a real education secretary who can coherently speak.

#3246 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Look out, I hear Trump is planning to make 4 holographic planes take down the Sears Tower!  You don't get to dictate shit to anyone.  Your words and actions define your behavior.   Sorry if no one thinks your credible because you go silent as soon as your party does the behavior you nearly had an aneurysm moments early.  You're a proclaimed 9/11 Truther.  You don't get to call anyone else a conspiracy nut.

But prove me wrong.  State now that you no longer believe 9/11 was an inside job.  Otherwise, continue to be called out when you call others crazy.

You should have let your "girlfriend" stick her finger up your ass. Maybe you would be more relaxed...


He changed his gender that day, so I can call him a girl.

Thanks for clarifying you're still a wack job though!

#3247 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

This is hysterical coming from the guy.....

I've told you several times, you are not welcome to speak on my behalf. Or maybe you should? Answer for all of us...that way you can sit in a corner and argue with yourself all day. You're half way there already...


Look out, I hear Trump is planning to make 4 holographic planes take down the Sears Tower!  You don't get to dictate shit to anyone.  Your words and actions define your behavior.   Sorry if no one thinks your credible because you go silent as soon as your party does the behavior you nearly had an aneurysm moments early.  You're a proclaimed 9/11 Truther.  You don't get to call anyone else a conspiracy nut.

But prove me wrong.  State now that you no longer believe 9/11 was an inside job.  Otherwise, continue to be called out when you call others crazy.

#3248 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

slcpunk wrote:

You should stick to what you know best: An in depth analysis of the lizard people and how they've infiltrated our society via the Illuminati.


This is hysterical coming from the guy who thinks 9/11 was an inside job.  I know you don't bring it up anymore because people started calling you crazy and you didn't like being attacked from your own side, but it doesn't change that you're  a conspiracy theorist. Weeks ago you were demanding they stop Trump or Pence from being sworn in because you thought there was evidence Trump was working with Putin.  Notice how that story has died down.  You don't ever get to make fun of other people for crazy shit they believe after what you've posted.  You had no problem linking infowars a few years ago.

#3249 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Rachel Maddow now giving Trump shit because Gorsuch isn't anti abortion enough thus letting down his base and breaking a campaign promise. Lol

I was following it a bit this morning & they seemed to have it narrowed down to 2 candidates, both seemed somewhat 'moderate' relatively speaking. Further right than Garland of course, but not extreme. It sounded Gorsuch was the more conservative of the two, but it seems both aren't true 'anti-abortion'. We'll see. Honestly tho I don't think Trump wants it overturned. He's probably paid for a few himself in his past.


No one really wants it overturned. And I don't think the court will. But any kind of regulation is heralded as an attempt to overturn roe v wade. Most not realizing roe v wade actually put a time limit on abortions.

Crime was skyrocketing in the late 80s and early 90s and crashed approx 18 years after Roe v Wade. I don't think that was a coincidence.

I personally favor liberal abortion laws. But I also think it's fine to ban abortion outside of risk to the mother or serious deformity/defect after the 2nd trimester.

#3250 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Here's hoping Ginsburg leaves soon and we can get another justice who loves the constitution and doesn't believe it's an ever changing document.

All I care about is abortion and other causes like that...

They are well on track to overturn Roe V Wade...

And let's not forget...the true appointee was nominated a year ago...by a process outline in the constitution- but we will overlook that won't we RF?

It's a vile and disgusting party over there on the right....justify just about anything.


I didn't condone that. You can find my posts condemning it. McConnel should have held a vote and voted no.

I didn't like Garland, but he deserved a vote.

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