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#3381 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

Yea, I can't find any mainstream outlets with this story. I did find this tidbit from Obama's press secretary on NBC:

"You can imagine why these kinds of interactions may have taken place, why the incoming national security adviser may have the need to contact the representative of a foreign government based here in Washington D.C.," Earnest told reporters Friday. "It depends on what they discussed…in terms of whether or not we would have significant objections about those conversations."

The standard of evidence you guys rely on and flirtation with conspiracy makes me wonder if you guys all went off your meds at once.

#3382 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

I'm well aware what the Logan Act is. How did Flynn violate it?  What was negotiated?

#3383 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

misterID wrote:
PaSnow wrote:
misterID wrote:

Edit: beaten to the punch smile

No worries, that line has been severely underreported in the press.

Plus Flynn called the Russian ambassador five times the day he was expelled by Obama, which is illegal, and Trump's team is still saying he just wished him Merry Christmas... Five times.

Illegal how?  Illegal like ordering a drone to kill an American citizen or illegal like granting status to millions of people here illegally.

You'll have to show me the law that says Flynn as a private citizen can't talk to a foreign diplomat.

I mean, if we're supposed to accept Lynch and Clinton just talked about music and movies when they secretly met, why do we have to accept that Flynn somehow violated a law by making deals he's not authorized.

#3384 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I thought this was a really good article.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/f … eport.com/

I thought that was a really good article too. Rather than a hatchet job, the journalist lets him hang with his own words. She's a good writer.

The only time I had an issue with Dowd was when she tried pot and claimed it was more akin to a bad LSD trip.

#3385 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

  You're hard because of an infograph from Philly.com with no citations or sources.

I just want to clarify Philly.com is the website for the Philadelphia Inquirer.  Essentially the Chicago Tribune of Philadelphia, so it isn't some rando's blog website.


I'll edit a clarifying caption, I can understand any misperception.


I know, I lived in Philly for 2 years.  Doesn't negate my comment that there is no context or sources.  I've objectively debunked 2 of the claims on there.  But Mitch must have popped some adderall today.  He's been having a conversation with himself for hours.

#3386 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

Oh no no no...this is the new world we live in...we don't believe the CIA or major news sources anymore. In fact, anyone who specializes in something and knows more than I do about a particular topic is a threat and should be ignored. I don't like not always knowing more than everyone else. It makes me feel small.

So, I just go with my gut now...just like Trump. I don't trust anything the government tells me, and I especially don't believe in anything that Philly news paper publishes. No sir...only unbiased news sources that I arbitrarily decide are unbiased because they fit my narrative. Ho Hum...I am so smart that I do need anyone to tell me anything. I can read hundreds of pages on something and simply deem myself an expert.

That's Right...the only person I trust now is Vlad Putin...my boy...he'd never steer me wrong. He knows what's up and he's totally got my back.

Now...if you'll excuse me...I need to be getting back to doing stomping liberals and getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and appoint highly accomplished white men into my cabinet.


What college did you graduate from?  I want to make sure my children or family never attend it.

#3387 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

Who are you arguing with?  I told you I'm not going to play this game, it's too easy.  Where do you think the energy came from that replaced coal?  Hint:  It's not green energy.  It's other fossil fuels like natural gas and shale.

Are the Obama deportation numbers counting the same actions as the Bush ones? Do you even know?  Or is Obama counting people turned away at the border?

This is the problem.  You haven't done any research.  You're hard because of an infograph from Philly.com with no citations or sources.  No context.  You're just parroting what you think is right, and worse, you're creating arguments that I haven't made and denouncing them.  So with that said, unless you want to actually discuss the topic, there is no point in you posting 4 comments in a row at a scarecrow.

#3388 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Watch RF and SG dismantle it and view only the negative aspects of that chart and use it to be critical.


Haha, so it shouldn't be taken in total.  Just identify the positive and ignore everything else.

I already know you see know positive in it


I updated my post in the 2 minutes between your reply, but I made no such claim that there are no positives in it nor from Obama's presidency.

#3389 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 487 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Pretty interesting stats:

http://www.philly.com/philly/infographi … 39245.html

I would paste but it's a table/chart & doesn't paste properly.

Watch RF and SG dismantle it and view only the negative aspects of that chart and use it to be critical.


Haha, so it shouldn't be taken in total.  Just identify the positive and ignore everything else.

Ok, I'll play. 

The article tries to show that the median income has risen under Obama, going from 52k in 2008 to 56k in 2016.  Sounds reasonable and you all applaud.   Until you realize that accounting for inflation (which that article didn't do), the median income in 2008 is 58.3k in 2016 dollars. So it actually dropped by 2k. 

But since you've already decided there is no room for discussion, I don't need to address any more.

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