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#3491 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

I still fail to see how in 3 months time because the economy is great it's entirely all Trump (not the President who REBOUNDED the economy the past 8 years after the terrible disaster that was our last President) all the while knowing in 4 years the economy could very well be in the toilet again?!!


Definitely pre-emptive thinking. Let's calm down a bit, shall we.


You don't think the DOW and $ have anything to do with Trump.  It's just a coincidence they jumped after he was elected?  What the fuck has Obama done for business?  He's done nothing but create more red tape the past 8 years.

#3492 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Remember this about 3 months from now

Just curious, remember what 3 months from now?  Surely it'll take 5-10 years for Trumps "Kennedy or Reagan legacy" to be formed?!


The dollar is at its highest value since 2001 or 2003.  The DOW is going crazy.  Trump is asking for a Trillion Dollar investment in our infrastructure.  He's telling us he's going to take care of Americans and do what's in our best interest.  I take that to mean we don't give a fuck what Saudi or the Phillipines do to their people, so long as their alliance with the US benefits our citizens.  You guys think this is all a big fucking joke, but I don't think so.  Rather than putting in the Clinton type people who have said "You need to talk to me if you want to get anything done", he's putting people in his cabinet that have met with new people they've never met every day and build a relationship that is mutually beneficial and actually provided an end result rather than some fucking piece of paper.  Businesses know how to make shit happen because that's what they do.  Career politicians sit around, do nothing, then celebrate when they create a piece of paper that they hand off to some business to actually execute.  Trump is removing the middle men.

I'm not saying it's going to be a fucking Utopia or any different from today 3 months from now in reality.  But you'll see the framework finally being started to actually put the interests of actual Americans first rather than catering to non-citizens and every special fringe group that has manifested due to identity politics. 

The best example will be when these mayors who are promising to serve as sanctuary cities quickly fall in line once their federal money is stripped from them.  People are going to learn to follow the law for once rather than throw tantrums.  Trump's not going to let a group of dipshit protestors stop a pipeline from being installed.  He'll hit them with water canons and remove their supplies until they return home to their parents luxury sky rises.  The era of the spoiled toddler who gets to scream and silence any dissent is about to be over.

#3493 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

Remember this about 3 months from now

#3494 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

I watched his entire speech in Hershey.  I loved it.  I didn't take that interpretation at all.  It was about thanking them for not blindly following whatever candidate had a (D) next to their name.  I think this guy is going to be an amazing President.  I'm still very nervous, but I see the potential for this guy to be remembered like Kennedy or Reagan.

#3495 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

Claim: Trump or his nominees are problematic because of personal ties or potential for personal gain due to ties with foreign governments. Ergo, Hillary should have been elected or put in through the electoral college.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … f5f79e2e2e

Claim:  You can't define my silence




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#3496 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Pal … prov=sfsi1

Remember in 2008 when Palin's email was hacked?  I think Obama only won because Russia was scared of McCain and wanted the guy in office they knew wouldn't pose a threat. I have no real evidence of this, but someone in a suit I can't name or refer to the intel told me so. Granted, there's no consensus among intel agencies, but I'm an emotion guy. I knew Zimmerman killed Martin in cold blood and was a racist. I knew Mike Brown was on his knees with his hands up, pleading for his life. I knew Benghazi was a spur of the moment uprising from a video on YouTube 5 guys had seen. I knew that girl in the rolling stone article was repeatedly raped. 

McCain didn't win because he ran a poor campaign or lost credibility when he suspended his campaign or chose a complete fucking idiot as his running mate. No way. He lost because the Russians hacked Palin's email, released it to the media who made it available to everyone, and somehow got the majority of states to determine they didn't want McCain.

#3497 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

Why does the skin color of his cabinet matter?  Holder was a terrible AG, but it had nothing to do with his skin color. Powell was a very competent Secretary of State, and it had nothing to do with his skin color.  I like Thomas and dislike Sotomayor. None of that has to do with their skin color.

Trump is appointing proven leaders to his most important positions.  The color of their skin isn't in the equation.

#3498 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na … 257ea9b0b5

Remember in the debates when Hillary swore there was no evidence her server was ever hacked?

My how the times have changed. If they're going to claim Russia hacked Hillary, shouldn't she be responsible since she elected to have a private server with shit security?

#3499 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

I think most people are upset by the reality Russia was trying to influence our election.  But the disagreement is to what extent it impacted the election.  Most of Hillary's emails were already out long before the wikileaks stuff due to the FOIA requests related to Hillary's server.  The Podesta emails are certainly attributable to hackers, but it wasn't some grand hack like Sony or Target.  Podesta fell victim to a basic phishing scam.  This isn't on the level of a a government sponsored hack.  Don't forget that Powell's emails were leaked too and weren't a glowing recommendation of Trump.

What I think you want, is for Trump to decline the office and put Hillary in, pretending that all of the TRUTH revealed around her and the DNC was wiped from our citizens memory. 

I'm sure you have no problem with the Access Hollywood video being leaked and I remember you being okay with Carter's grandson leaking Romney's "47%" comments in 2012. 

None of this has anything to do with Hillary not stepping foot in Wisconsin or paying tribute to the Auto Industry in Michigan, who were obviously influenced by Trump's attacks on Ford and other manufacturing jobs.  He won by 36 electoral votes.  Michigan, Wisconsin or Pennsylvania alone didn't hand him the presidency.

Trump is officially going to be the victor Monday despite desperate pleas from Democrats who just weeks ago were bashing the undemocratic nature of the Electoral College.  Again, position and tolerance is based solely on how it affects the party and their chosen candidate.

#3500 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 491 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Sorry SLC. You don't get to remain silent when your party does something wrong, bitch loudly when the Republicans do something, and then claim "you don't know what I think because I selectively remain mum when it's my party." 

That shit may work in a court room, but what you choose to pay lip service to is indicative of what you find important. Not a single post from you condemning Obama or Clinton, but countless against the GOP. You don't get to claim silent objectivity. No one is buying this cheap excuse.

Here are a few far left liberal ideas that are stupid...

The anti-vaccination people
Hippies
Communism

How's that war on drugs going?
I think the Clintons are pretty conservative....
I can't really think of one liberal idea that has been implemented other than Obamacare in my life lifetime.

I think the war on drugs has been a huge mistake. There's very little you're going to see me defend about Nixon.

That being said, heroin and opioid addiction kills more people annually than firearm fatalities, yet doesn't get nearly the attention gun deaths receive. Serious reform is needed to halt the over prescription of pain killers. Trump's border enforcement will also help end the influx of heroin, which almost exclusively enters the country via Mexico. The federal government considering pot on the same level as Heroin is truly stupid. I'm hoping Trump keeps Sessions from being stupid on this.

I can name several progressive policies rammed down our throats. The Dream Act for one. Admitting Transgendered people into the military (I couldn't send soldiers with sleep apnea to Iraq because I couldn't guarantee access to electricity for their machines 100% of the time. I couldn't deploy Soldiers who were on anti depression medication as it makes them unstable and access to medication isn't guaranteed. The hormones and treatment transgendered people need aren't going to be readily available in a war zone, so they're dead weight from the start). Removal of work requirements to receive welfare. 

Stupid shit the GOP has done:

Voting repeatedly to appeal Obamacare knowing Obama would veto even if it miraculously made it through the Senate.

Refusing to budge at all and work with Obama, embarrassing Boehner and resulting in his resignation.

Obsession with abortion and planned parenthood. The crime rate drop in the early 90s coincidentally also aligns with Roe V Wade and the millions on adolescents who would have been born to poor single mothers. I don't think it was a coincidence.

The thirst for blood in Iraq and Afghanistan, but a complete 180 on any current threat.

This was bipartisan, but passing a law to let people sue Saudi Arabia for 9/11.

Their obsession with gay marriage and championing people like Kim Davis, meanwhile half of them are on their 2nd or 3rd wife with lots of intern action.

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