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#3531 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
I care. A sailor was sent to Leavenworth because he took photos of classified systems for his own gratification. Petraeus was forced to resign in disgrace because he shared info with his lover who also had a Top Secret clearance. I'm not saying what any of these people did was right, but no one can accuse them of malice or intent to harm the US.
Meanwhile Clinton was loose with the law, ordered her aides to violate said law. Then they destroy evidence and try to wipe the server after a subpoena. Did the GOP have a hard on for her? Yep. Did Clinton intend to harm our country or lose classified information? Nope.
But if you don't think the people who voted for Trump took notice that the left was trying to sweep Clinton's violation of the law under the rug, if not insult the intelligence of every American, we'll have to agree to disagree.
And if you don't think a large chunk of Democrats stayed home because they wouldn't support someone who actively worked to rig the primary in her favor, going so far as to have both heads of the DNC be caught red handed feeding Clinton information, again we'll have to agree to disagree.
Clinton was accurately portrayed as the Washington insider who didn't think the rules or law applied to her. Yes, Comey should resign for how he handled that last letter he sent to Congress. But if Clinton didn't try to bend or break every rule to obtain ultimate power, none of this would have been an issue.
It's like catching your wife fucking another dude, and everyone blaming you for coming home from work early.
#3532 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
Yea, it's Russia's fault Clinton used a private server and ordered her aides to remove classification markings. It's their fault she was a shit candidate who hid from the media and used Beyoncé and Katy Perry as surrogates.
The FBI and even Obama have commented our election systems weren't compromised. Anything to avoid admitting identity politics is a farce and Trump won because the left refers to anything not on the coast as "fly over" country. Why am I not surprised the same folks who believed 9/11 was an inside job and once touted Alex Jones and Wikileaks as heroes are now going along with the latest conspiracy theory.
#3533 Re: The Garden » The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024 » 494 weeks ago
Just a reminder of the leaflets posted through everyone's doors.
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Is there any indication with Merkel's push to take in refugees and the obvious desire to eventually admit Turkey, that Iraq and Syria wouldn't ultimately be considered too? Anyone who said they didn't want Iraqis flooding London would be called racist, so what discussion would be allowed to stop their eventual admission?
#3534 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:If the worst you can tie to trump is that in 50 years of real estate, he didn't want to rent to people on welfare (is it cause they were black or because poor people destroy their properties. I'd love for SLC to try to avoid this claim. He's our resident real estate expert), that's pretty fucking good. Someone in the DoJ accused him of discrimination. No evidence or conviction was ever put forward. 40 years from now I'll bet you'll claim the Ferguson riots were due to racism too. After all, Holder's DoJ accused them of racism. No evidence or case they can point to, just a feeling and you swallow it.
What claim am I to avoid?
Whether renters on welfare are more apt to destroy rental property than those who pay for their rent without assistance.
#3535 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
An article obviously copied from some left wing site.
I read every single one of these. Did you?
If the worst you can tie to trump is that in 50 years of real estate, he didn't want to rent to people on welfare (is it cause they were black or because poor people destroy their properties. I'd love for SLC to try to avoid this claim. He's our resident real estate expert), that's pretty fucking good. Someone in the DoJ accused him of discrimination. No evidence or conviction was ever put forward. 40 years from now I'll bet you'll claim the Ferguson riots were due to racism too. After all, Holder's DoJ accused them of racism. No evidence or case they can point to, just a feeling and you swallow it.
Seriously. Have you read these. Did you ever step back and ask yourself if on their own, any of these claims are credible.
This is the best your side can do. Scour the internet for anything and everything it can to attack Trump. And this is the best evidence in over 50 years of the public spot light. I'd be ashamed.
#3536 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
Hillarys lead in the popular vote now well over 2 million....
Thank god we're a republic and have the electoral college. 2 or 3 states shouldn't dictate how the rest of the country lives.
#3537 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
So your evidence is the judge. The judge who is a member of La Raza (That's 'the Race' in Spanish for those playing at home) which advocates for Mexican dominion over the South West. They advocate for amnesty/citizenship for people who illegally enter our country. So yes, it was perfectly reasonable for Trump to call in to question the judgement of a Judge who in his off time, advocates for Mexican ownership of US territories and citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Why is this not part of your discussion?
You're correctly condemning a group of white racists who are arguing for "their race" and to keep ownership of America in their hands. Why don't you make that connection to La Raza and condemn them? Should a judge who is a member of this latest Neo Nazi group be allowed to preside on a trial of an a white assaulter against a minority?
I'm truly trying to understand the basis of your argument, but all I can gather from your posts are someone who isn't informed on the issue or consciously chooses to ignore it. Either way, it's not compelling.
#3538 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
What racist shit? No one would know who the fuck David Duke is if the left didn't parade a camera out in front of him to connect him to Trump. This conference in DC with the skin heads? 285 fucking idiots showed up. And about 100 journalist showed up to record them. It's all bullshit. This is some fringe group that had about as many attendees as your normal Clinton rally, and unlike the Clinton rally, the parent of an attempted cop killer or the parent of a mass shooter who killed 50 people weren't invited to be front and center. 
Point is the public is only aware of the group because the media keeps a spot light on them. Why the fuck should Trump do back flips to make it any more clearer he wants nothing to do with these clowns, never associated with them, and never even met with them. He denounced David Duke immediately, and the media kept pestering him to do more. Now we have this nazi group, which Trump has denounced, and you people want more.
How about maybe take the camera and microphone away from the crazies and cover shit that matters. You wonder why Trump isn't kissing their asses for interviews. This is fucking why. Manufacture a story and then attack Trump for not disavowing it in the manner and language you consistently move the goal post to accomplish.
Trump won. Get the fuck over it. He isn't a racist and he's not supporting racist policies. You're just too fucking dumb to make an argument without resorting to your pre-programmed zingers you repeat like a parrot. Securing the border isn't racist. Not pretending trans people aren't mentally ill isn't bigotry. And not desiring to turn this country into a "multi-cultural" cesspool isn't xenophobic. I want the border secure because it's the law and an open border isn't sustainable. I don't care what adults do with their bodies, but I don't want to be arrested because I refuse to call a man with a beard and two balls and the shaft a woman. I think America has an awesome culture already and welcome anyone who legally enters, but don't want to import uneducated, illiterate dipshits who think free speech is punishable by death and our women are less than human.
So if you're going to continue this child like behavior of calling anyone a name who disagrees with you, piss off to tumbler or one of the many progressive enclaves out there where you too can choose between 300 gender pronouns and 80 sexual persuasions. But if you're going to hang around here and make these claims, link some articles to support your claims that have actual documented quotes rather than just "feels" from some 24 year old with a "14th Century Queer Art with Feces" degree.
I know the MO of the left is to redefine words to make them fit their narrative. That's why "rape" can now consist of only looks or failure to stop between every act in an intimate encounter and receive a witnessed and notarized consent form. Or "assault" means touching someone's elbow.
So let me remind you what these words mean you throw around.
Racism - hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Example: Blue skinned people are inferior to green skin people.
Bigot - a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Example: Anyone who voted for Donald Trump is a deplorable human being and I refuse to even entertain their reasoning because I know my opinions are intrinsically right.
Xenophobe - a person who fears or hates foreigners, people from different cultures, or strangers.
Example: I don't want a single person from China bringing their bland food or weird eastern ideas into my neighborhood. We need to prevent anyone who has left this county from coming back and spreading their weird ideas.
And lastly,
Homophobe - a person who fears or hates homosexuals and homosexuality.
Example: Keep those fags away from my kid. I don't want him catching the gay or learning to play dress up and play with barbies.
So if you can pull actual arguments or statements that align with one of these defined words, do so. But fear mongering and scouring the darkest reaches of the web to find bad people to falsely associate with Trump isn't the same thing.
#3539 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:bigbri wrote:After all the talk about email servers and exposing classified info, Trump is having conversations on unsecured Trump Tower phones, his own cell phone and world leaders are calling the Trump Tower switchboard and talking to secretaries.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat … ld-leaders
I don't know what setup they have, but classified cell phones with built in encryption are a pretty common thing. You're average person isn't going to have one (the only people I saw with one was Admiral Mullen who was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at the time and the General of DISA), but your senior leaders are going to have them.
Without knowing the subject of their discussions, I don't know if they need to be on a secure line. If they're just exchanging greetings and talking over policy, you wouldn't use a secure line anyway.
I'm not saying this is right, but the media are the least qualified people to have an opinion on this issue as they thought Clinton did no wrong with her email usage - they don't understand how classification and security work. Using a secure line isn't preferable to normal dialogue anyway as there is a few second delay in voice as the data is encrypted. transmitted and decrypted at each end.
Not trying to start an argument, just want your opinion as classified material was an issue for you with Clinton. General Flynn showed classified info to foreign armies twice. Should that alone disqualify him from a cabinet position?
I'd have to know the context and whether it was intentional or not. I'm not familiar with the story.
#3540 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago
After all the talk about email servers and exposing classified info, Trump is having conversations on unsecured Trump Tower phones, his own cell phone and world leaders are calling the Trump Tower switchboard and talking to secretaries.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat … ld-leaders
I don't know what setup they have, but classified cell phones with built in encryption are a pretty common thing. You're average person isn't going to have one (the only people I saw with one was Admiral Mullen who was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at the time and the General of DISA), but your senior leaders are going to have them.
Without knowing the subject of their discussions, I don't know if they need to be on a secure line. If they're just exchanging greetings and talking over policy, you wouldn't use a secure line anyway.
I'm not saying this is right, but the media are the least qualified people to have an opinion on this issue as they thought Clinton did no wrong with her email usage - they don't understand how classification and security work. Using a secure line isn't preferable to normal dialogue anyway as there is a few second delay in voice as the data is encrypted. transmitted and decrypted at each end.
