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#3601 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Times called PA for Trump. It's over
#3602 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Our national channel is in shock. Never seen such sad faces on a tv screen. "But the polls!"
I got to give you credit dude. A lot of posters mocked you relentlessly for not buying their preferred polls. But you showed them.
Maybe if the U.K. Leaves the EU they can form an agreement with the us.
#3603 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:Pollux, I am so happy for you and I.. Everyone made fun of us and called us crazy... And look at us on top of the Mountain Top... FUCK YES.
Not everyone. I defended Trump and would certainly take him over her.
We will let you in our group Buzz....
Can I come back please? 
#3604 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
End anchor babies. Pass everify and punish businesses that hire illegals. Keep the pre-existing condition and mandate, but open the markets across state lines. Renegotiate all trade and work with Jordan and Saudi Arabia to put boots on the ground with American air and logistical support to end ISIS. Put another Scalia on the bench. He does that, he'll be remembered like Reagan.
#3605 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
I agree. If Michigan falls, so will the rest of the dominoes.
This is all bat shit crazy. If he does win, I want to know what really happened. Which incident swayed it or did nothing sway it and the silent majority sick of the corruption decide to give the middle finger to the establishment?
It's the feeling that made trump attractive to a part of us. That fuck you to a system that doesn't defend America and wants to cater to every special interest. The hypocrisy of feigning outrage at what Trump has said and then having Jay Z rap things much worse along side of you.
The GOP is looking to have a clean sweep and control over all branches of government. Things are going to change.
#3606 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
I've been following the New York Times tracker for each state and they're currently predicting Trump wins Michigan and Wisconsin. If that's true, he's gonna win this.
#3607 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Isn't it obvious? America's military position and status as the sole superpower. Russia took over parts of Georgia in 2008 amidst the oncoming election between Obama and McCain. Obama took a "ahh shucks, Russia isn't a threat" theme which he continued into 2012. McCain ran the opposite making his famous "when I look into Putin's eyes I see 'KGB'" argument during the debates and advocating for an American response. Obama did nothing. Romney echoed the sentiment in 2012 to which Obama mocked him about talking about Calvary in the 19th century. Russia then takes Crimea. Not to mention Obama's failed Middle East policy that allowed not only ISIS to form, but to bring Russian military into the Middle East as a military force again.
China is creating fake islands and is now taking over our relationship with the Philippines, which is our primary asset in South East Asia. If we lose that site, our entire pacific fleet and force projection is dramatically handicapped. Oh, and that crazy North Korea country having nukes and missles capable of hitting the west coast.
12 years ago there wasn't a country in the world who questioned our supremacy. Now we have every third rate leader acting up because they no longer fear quick and swift retaliation. That's what's always killed me about some of you. You still don't realize this is a high stakes game and the US has to smack the gnats occasionally to remind everyone we can.
So yeah. I think Obama's leadership has greatly hindered our strength globally. And that is to say nothing of our reduced ownership of our own businesses and economic power/influence abroad.
Are you saying we needed to start a war with Russia? Europe needs to deal with that shit. But I do give Romney and McCain credit, Russia is a threat, but Trump doesn't think so, right SG?
Sorry, Isis didn't start because of Obama. I know W. in't responsible for anything, and just ignoring it goes back to W.'s war, but this is a an outright lie. W signed and set the date for that withdrawal. And the seeds of Isis started in 2002.I also don't see what your solution is for China and North Korea. Smack them like gnats?
When did ISIS form? When did they become a problem? Who called them the JV team and refused to do anything? Who was president in 2011 when the SOFA in Iraq ended - almost 3 years after Bush left office? Your understanding of the situation is only an inch deep. Obama made the decision to pull out of Iraq at the end of 2011 and not extend or renegotiate the SOFA. ISIS sprang up immediately in that wake. It's been 8 fucking years. It's time to stop blaming Bush.
#3608 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
For the record, Trump going on about the glories of Brexit. Alot of people don't feel that way and if you check the other thread, theirs multiple lawsuits from half the regions of the UK atm to stop it.
Plenty of people who voted for it, regretting it too.
Either you support democracy or your don't. That the EU is managed/run by one man who wasn't elected and the will of the British people is being ignored so bureaucrats can prevent exit is a huge problem. Some courts have also declared men can magically become women, so I'd take their opinions with a grain of salt.
#3609 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:mitchejw wrote:See when you make statements like that, how do you expect people not to think that you use race or skin color is a pretext to analyzing, assessing, and then criticizing the policies and decisions of another human being?
I am not sure what else to take from comments like that except that you use race and skin color as a pretext to determine and influence your line of thinking in terms of whether or not an idea for a policy was successful or not.
Your party's entire platform is predicated on race and identifying arbitrary differences to make people "special". You come in this forum and post some sob story about an exchange student who may or may not have been harmed because of his ethnicity. But remain absolutely mum when 30 people of color are butchered in your own city every week. You guys try to claim we can't define your silence, but we don't need to. What you feel obligated to comment on is a direct line into what you find important. The hypocrisy and double standards to which you feign moral outrage says it all.
Your party doesn't give a fuck about poor whites in Appalachia. Jim Webb brought this up in the first primary debate and was mocked for it. The war on poverty has resulted in your adopted community having a less than 50% high school graduation rate and 70% out of wedlock births - more than any other demographic. So yes, you're not interested in actual results in policy, but what aligns with your unqualified white guilt. Your party has accomplished nothing but celebrating ignorance and keeping those least advantaged enslaved to government assistance programs. If people of color can't achieve equality on their merits and achievements alone, then maybe it's time they abandon the moronic belief systems that tell them they can live free of consequence?
It's not the party that showed me the "differences" between people. You can call the differences "arbitrary" if you want to....but whatever. You speak in the abstract and you keep trying to put me in the position of defending your inferences.
Your idea that this country should solely be filled with war mongering assholes who only seem to validated if they're killing someone of another country/culture/belief system/color sounds a lot like all the countries that you ridicule. Are you in support of Russia's efforts to take over countries that surround them? It seems like you should be....the superior Russia waving its dick around as they take the weak, inferior and probably faggy liberal countries who are just not strong enough to defend themselves seems like something you should support.
EXCEPT....this is the perfect time for 'Murica to take its shirt off, take out it's gun and blow back Russia into its inferior status from 'Murica....thus once again proving the cycle of life....the whole macho manly system is predicated on every backing down to the all mighty 'Murica. But that faggy, pussy Obama decided that a war on the other side of the world over ideas of machismo and 'Muricain made ideas of....well....'Murican superiority and flexing muscles and shootin' guns n' stuff. Sounds like that long, grueling, little skirmish that went on between 1960 to 1975....real succesful venture for us....just like operation Iraqi freedom. There was a whole country of people DEPENDENT on the government to establish/maintain FREEEEEEDOM!!!! Sounds like a buncha pussy fuckin' liberals if you ask me...
YEEEEEE HAWWW!!!!
Are you done with story time? I believe in everyone working together and playing by the rules. If you want western technology and want access to our markets, play by our rules. If you act up like Sadam and threaten stability, you get smacked. That doesn't mean you enter our countries and declare them yours now. That's threatening the stability. It's called putting a line in the sand and sending military assets to stand their ground. I don't want to go to war with anyone. Been there, done that. It's not fun. But you forget that this wonderful society didn't just manifest itself into existence. Our grandfathers and great grandfathers built this country and made it the superpower it is today. They sacrificed for it. Men and women sacrifice for it today by volunteering to suit up and go wherever their country tells them to go so other people know it's not okay to come here and knock down and take what we've built. Men and women are creating business and new ideas that better our society. Everyone else is just a bystander taking advantage of what the others have sacrificed to maintain. Where do you fit in to the equation?
You come across as someone who's never taken a stand for anything or ever stood up for yourself. Did the jocks flick you in the ear and call you a 'faggot'? At least that's what I hear when you automatically assume every military action is a dick measuring contest. Some jocks flicked me in the ear and called me a 'faggot' too. But I smacked them in the mouth and they all of a sudden weren't as bold. I'm not saying nor have I ever advocated a military response to every infraction. But Chirst, if you're not willing to get smacked in the mouth when someone is trying to come in your house and fuck your wife, when is it appropriate?
#3610 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 496 weeks ago
Isn't it obvious? America's military position and status as the sole superpower. Russia took over parts of Georgia in 2008 amidst the oncoming election between Obama and McCain. Obama took a "ahh shucks, Russia isn't a threat" theme which he continued into 2012. McCain ran the opposite making his famous "when I look into Putin's eyes I see 'KGB'" argument during the debates and advocating for an American response. Obama did nothing. Romney echoed the sentiment in 2012 to which Obama mocked him about talking about Calvary in the 19th century. Russia then takes Crimea. Not to mention Obama's failed Middle East policy that allowed not only ISIS to form, but to bring Russian military into the Middle East as a military force again.
China is creating fake islands and is now taking over our relationship with the Philippines, which is our primary asset in South East Asia. If we lose that site, our entire pacific fleet and force projection is dramatically handicapped. Oh, and that crazy North Korea country having nukes and missles capable of hitting the west coast.
12 years ago there wasn't a country in the world who questioned our supremacy. Now we have every third rate leader acting up because they no longer fear quick and swift retaliation. That's what's always killed me about some of you. You still don't realize this is a high stakes game and the US has to smack the gnats occasionally to remind everyone we can.
So yeah. I think Obama's leadership has greatly hindered our strength globally. And that is to say nothing of our reduced ownership of our own businesses and economic power/influence abroad.

