Beta is definitely the luckiest babysitter in the history of the world.

I heard BETA played bass on one of the jams.
True or false?

The point of no return was the night and Duff signed over the rights to . When Axl pulled the rug a few years later and Slash realized he was suddenly just an employee, he countered by simply refusing to do anything the boss asked. Knowing full well his actual value in the band was more than that of a mere subordinate.
Obviously that was not quite the case as Axl was more than willing to work around a lot of issues, but it was his way of trying to rectify the position he found himself in.

I'm not sure if he as much left as it just got to the point where he stopped coming around, and then Axl put out the press release saying he was no longer considered to be part of the band. Either way he miscalculated as Axl was eyeballing replacements quickly thereafter. Slash's response to that was to sling shit in the media and that was all she wrote.

It's not about the blame, it is about what happened. 5 kids, all content to go live in the slums of LA. Already we know quite a bit about their characters. In between the sex and the drugs they write a few songs and play a couple of shows. Suddenly they're the biggest act in the world. Getting 900.000 dollar checks and don't even have a bank accounts. For 4 of them that meant an eternal party until they couldn't take it anymore. Izzy checked out in 91, Duff in 94, Slash sometime around 2006 and Steven appears to still be doing it.

Like Izzy said, this guy ain't no college degree or nothing like that. He's a dropout that wrote a few songs and now he's in the middle of a 100 million dollar operation. He sees his band mates partying like there's no tomorrow and there's a growing entourage of vultures egging him on he needs to get on top of this thing. Cause naturally, if they only have to convince one person of their various schemes their job becomes a lot easier.

It turns out they weren't all that wrong either. Within a few years they already had an ex drummer, who's suing for millions. Then the rythm guitarist decides to quit in the middle of a world tour to beat his drug addiction. The two remaining ones just want to continue the party and let him have it.

Axl shouldn't have tried to take over the band, the others shouldn't have let him. But it happened, because they were young, stupid and selfish with too much money in their hands. Only thing I think could be done differently was the way the rest of the band used the press against Axl after the fact. That burned a lot of bridges, especially for Slash.

Mikkimakka that's interesting you say Mick Jagger is the perfect frontman, cause while in Kieth Richards book "Life", he calls it LVS (Lead Vocalist Syndrome) where the ego gets to their head.  He compliments Mick thouroughly thru the years, and as a phenomenal songwriter (wrote Wild Horses in just a few minutes after Kieth played those chords at the studio), but also says he really hasn't known his boyhood friend much at all since about 1972.  He said Mick's alot different now, and offstage they don't speak a whole lot.