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#3701 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 504 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Every black person in America should be grateful their ancestors were slaves. Name a single African country where your average black is remotely as comfortable and privledged as your average black in America. The Latinos are no different.
.I was originally surprised you were voting for Trump to be honest. Now...not so much.
Horse shit. What I said is factually correct. That doesn't mean I approve of slavery. I obviously don't. But just as my ancestors on my mother's side help settle this country 400 years ago, I'm grateful for the hardships they endured. That's all I'm saying. Black people wouldn't be in this country in any noticeable number if their ancestors weren't slaves. Their hardship and misfortune allowed their descendants to have an amazing life.
If you want to inject racism into simple fact, I can't help you. It's obvious you and others live in a fantasy world where the past has no connection to the present. I guess it's also racist to point out that had Europeans not conquered the Americas, the continent wouldn't have any of the first world institutions that now dominate it.
Keep pretending that the contributions of Europeans aren't what define the modern world. Electricity, petroleum, the automobile and the internet. My skin color doesn't give me any more claim to their hard work than some black person can claim debt from the crimes committed against their ancestor.
Quit trying to inject racism into every idea simply because it doesn't promote the infantile talking points of modern leftists.
#3702 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 504 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Hilarious reading some of this. Dodge, deflect. Trump this, Trump that. Arguing over who cares more about something that doesn't matter. Nobody at all discussing the actual issues. You guys are just a reflection of the problem we have and why the establishment has you all by the short hairs. I get why none of the candidates are discussing the issues. Neither of them have a workable plan for anything.
What I don't understand is why you guys keep ignoring the issues and playing the game they want you to play while pretending to have moral superiority over the other side.
Nobody is going to change their mind. All of you are going to believe what you're going to believe. I am too, so don't think I'm not including myself. Nobody has made a single compelling argument in this whole fucking thread. Almost 200 pages of bullshit. I gave up trying to get you to think because clearly you're not interested in it; you're just going to spew the bullshit you've read on internet memes as fact (both sides). They both suck. They are both evil. The sooner you guys figure that out, the sooner we can have actual discussions towards a solution. As long as you're sitting here defending either candidate, you're just wasting your time and proving your ignorance. Fact.
I haven't really defended Hillary...I just loath Trump.
But what are the real issues? Buzz...in your opinion, what are the issues?
Shrinking middle class?
Immigration?
Terrorism?
Russia?
Economy?I need you to be specific. I'll tell you one thing....I personally don't care to hear from the white community bitching about immigration.
In my experience, first generation people to this country work harder for less.
Get out of here with your racist, white guilt nonsense. I don't believe the color of your skin or ancestry has dick to do with your potential. The horrors inflicted by or upon your ancestors have no bearing on you. But this country was founded by and built by white people. Slavery was limited to the south by cotton farmers and had a negligible impact on the economy. Once industrialization came, slaves were worthless.
Every black person in America should be grateful their ancestors were slaves. Name a single African country where your average black is remotely as comfortable and privledged as your average black in America. The Latinos are no different.
I'm 3rd generation German from my fathers side. My grandfather was the first one born in America. He didn't know a word of German, but he happily shot the krauts in WW2.
This bullshit about America being a nation of immigrants is just that, bullshit. I eat the same fucking food anyone with Irish,Italian, English, Polish or any other European ancestry. The same as any black, Latino or Asian person.
We're a nation of laws. I expect outsider to respect our laws and culture just as I adhere to there's when I routinely travel all over the globe.
You may hate Trump because he advocates a position that doesn't enable you to click like and share on Facebook/YouTube and feel like you've accomplished anything. But he's the only one offering a sustainable immigration policy - the same policy every other country in the world enacts.
#3703 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 504 weeks ago
Trump has peaked too soon. He needed this a few weeks before the election. The polls have been swinging back and forth. They'll swing right back the other way in a month or so, and that's perfect timing for Hillary.
Even with this huge swing toward Trump, Hillary likely would win the election if it were held today.
I don't know. At this point looking at RCP, the state that would decide it is Virginia. Clinton leads by 1 there and the MOE is 4. It's a virtual tie.
#3704 Re: Guns N' Roses » Conspiracy Theory Time - Has Axl had a stroke? » 504 weeks ago
and when would this stroke have happened? Adler had a stroke. He's gotten better, but it's still noticable and it took years to get to this point. If Axl had a stroke, he wouldn't be on stage singing. Can you name one singer who has had a stroke and was on stage singing a couple months later?
#3705 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 505 weeks ago
I can't see Kelly going to MSNBC. Her ratings would be 1/5 of what they are on Fox. Maybe CNN, its ratings are increasing and CNN has a lot of objective reporters like Anderson Cooper or Wolf Blitzer. Though Kelly went after Clinton last night in the latest reveal of how Clinton had her server wiped and phones destroyed after the information was subpoenaed. And that she was the only witness interviewed by the FBI that no transcript is available for and that the director made comments that Hillary's testimony never factored in to his decision to seek charges. If you understand how classification works, how computers works, I don't see how you can come away from this with any other opinion than Obama/Lynch influenced the FBI to sweep this under the rug. Any normal person would be serving time for what they did. I don't see other networks covering stuff like that, so I don't know why she'd leave Fox. Ailes is out, and besides O'Reilly, she's their biggest star. Short of her being offered a lead anchor spot, I don't see why she'd give up her gig at Fox.
#3706 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 506 weeks ago
Trump had a good couple weeks and shit the bed last night. His Hispanic coalition just fell apart. I thought he actually had a slim chance propping up his poll numbers speaking with the pres of Mexico, that he could actually take it somewhere, but again, it's Trump.
I like Hillary because she is closest to my politics. People can't really talk about why they hate her without regurgitating what they read on a right wing blog or heard on crazy right radio. Or... What they made up in their own head with what they lazily put together from whatever they saw or read that sounded good to them.
What policies do you agree with and when did you get her position on the topic? You might want to verify she hasn't changed positions.
So because a "right wing blog" made a comment, it's unreasonable for someone to independently come to the same conclusion. Are you a White House staffer or some other Washington insider? If not, everything you think or say is a regurgitation of someone else's ideas.
#3707 Re: The Garden » 2016 Presidential Election Thread » 506 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:Trump is pulling a comeback. It's on.
No...I don't think so...I think nearly everyone made up their minds months ago...
Latest poll has him tied in Ohio. You can pretend Clinton has any chance in Georgia or similar states, but I do think Trump has a slight chance to lower her values in battleground states. No one can explain why they like her, just that they dislike Trump (oddly for some of the reasons and positions Clinton has supported at one time or another).
#3708 Re: The Garden » US Gives Away The Internet » 506 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:Right, cause removing the monopoly of domain name control won't open it up to puppet courts or international claims. "you may have registered amazon.com in 1998, but this chinese firm has called themselves Amazon since 1996, so we're going to configure the DNS in this country to point to the Chinese company. "
Was there a problem in which the way the US, the country who developed the computer and world wide web, was handling domain registration? If not, why turn it over to other countries who don't respect copyrights and free speech?
An aside: That's not entirely true... the first part especially not.
Sure, if you want to consider a non-electronic device that didn't read machine code a "computer", kudos to Babbage. Under the common definition, it certainly is, and no one can argue that the US wasn't the creator and driving force between what eventually became the internet. I'm not saying that because I believe America is superior because of it. Just simply that the US created it, so why would we want to turn it over to another authority that doesn't respect free speech or copyrights.
Many countries already block websites. There's nothing stopping them from changing the destination IP on domain names being accessed from within their boarders.
#3709 Re: The Garden » US Gives Away The Internet » 506 weeks ago
Right, cause removing the monopoly of domain name control won't open it up to puppet courts or international claims. "you may have registered amazon.com in 1998, but this chinese firm has called themselves Amazon since 1996, so we're going to configure the DNS in this country to point to the Chinese company. "
Was there a problem in which the way the US, the country who developed the computer and world wide web, was handling domain registration? If not, why turn it over to other countries who don't respect copyrights and free speech?
#3710 Guns N' Roses » GN'R documentary on Showtime » 506 weeks ago
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I just saw a commercial for this on showtime:
Have any of you heard of it?
