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#391 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 418 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Giuliani... That was a car crash.

Trump would do better representing himself. I mean, what the hell is going on with Giuliani? I loved watching Hannity's reaction to that.

PaSnow wrote:

I'm tellin ya, the Feds were wiretapping the Russians & in the midst of the investigation the Trump teams stumbled into the taps. The Feds weren't seeking the Trumps, they appeared into it.

I agree.

That's essentially what other intelligence agencies around the world reported to our country. They were alarmed at how often Trump came up.

#392 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 418 weeks ago

Dots starting to get connected: Cohen took a 500k payment from a sanctioned Russian Oligarch tired to Putin. The same Russian was picked up at the airport a month back and questioned by Mueller.

Either way WTF is Trump's lawyer doing taking half a million bucks into his shell company from the Russians? On top of that there was corporate money (AT & T)  flowing into this slush fund as well.

I'm sure this is all totally benign. I mean Cohen only had 16 cell phones,which is also totally normal.

#393 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 420 weeks ago

Trump's lawyer Cohen takes the fifth, which is nuts. Huge bombshell.

It's also now come to light why Manafort is being investigated for collusion (among other things): The Trump Tower meeting with the Russians. Let's not forget that Trump Jr. was part of that too.

If Trump is not shitting bricks right now...he should be.

#394 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 421 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

I dunno dude, I'm just shocked he's this bad. I mean George W was bad, but I think it isn't even close.

We'll see. I'll give you this, if it is only Stormy Daniels and petty campaign stuff, I'll be pissed. I can't see this not being big tho.

This has very little to do with Stormy Daniels anymore imo. The warrant was issued because they clearly feared evidence would be destroyed if they gave notice. Cohen has his own set of problems now, probably financial issues and whatever other illegal stuff comes up from this. While this isn't part of the Mueller investigation I can easily see Cohen becoming part of it via a plea deal. We'll have to see if he gets charged and how serious those charges are.

This is an entirely new set of legal problems for Trump. Mueller on the other hand is tightening the noose with his investigation...

#395 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 421 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

This is a kangaroo court. This is not what our legal system is supposed to be. A Fucking circus. Very embarrassing state of affairs. Why the attorney for the porn star and the porn star were there is beyond me. Also why did Hannity’s name have to be disclosed? Seems like abuse of power.

The warrant was signed off by a Trump appointee.

#396 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 421 weeks ago

Bad day for Sean Hannity. 16 I'd imagine it will be worse once reporters find out WHY he was using a clean up guy as his attorney.

Another shit day for Cohen, who I'm guessing will be indicted in the next few months or less after the FBI raided his residences and business.

Crap day for Trump who is watching the walls close in. 5

Bad day for Fox News, but I doubt they give a shit.

Remember when they said it would be wrapped up by the end of 2017? Remember all the Republicans who claimed nothing would come of this? Trump wasn't under investigation? Nobody was making deals? Flynn wasn't flipping? Stormy Daniels/Cohen payments wouldn't amount to anything?

The same people are still saying nothing is happening, and claiming zero evidence. This is what I'd call delusional.

This thing is heating up bigtime. Cohen's warrant was a pivotal moment in all of the Trump drama, which he has now on two fronts that we're aware of.

#397 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 422 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I doubt it. Looks like he played the media. The "secret communications" with Wikileaks was basically Wikileaks telling him to stop bothering them.
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That many be part of it, which only proves him to be a liar at best. But Stone announced all sorts of things ahead of time in regards to leaks. He also claimed to have lunch with Assange. Perhaps it's all puffing, but the result of that is Mueller is investigating his claims now. He's another man who lies quite often, which would not bode well for him under questioning. I still believe he'll end up under the bus somehow.

#398 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 422 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

Make a case for something that people can't argue with.  Banning "assault rifles" when you can't define an assault rifle is a losing proposition.  .

This is a false argument made by every gun nut on the internet. This is completely irrelevant to the issue of gun control.

You should tell that to a parent who has their 7 year old shot half a dozen times "Educate yourself on what an assault rifle is, then maybe we can talk."

See how much sense that makes?

#399 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 422 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

So Mueller allegedly says Trump isn’t part of a criminal probe. Can we finally call those who push the Russian collusion story conspiracy nuts?

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/38 … nal-target

That's an opinion article by the way. ^^

That's not what Mueller said. Not even close.

In fact he is a part of the criminal probe. He's a subject, which means he's under criminal investigation by the FBI but won't necessarily be charged at this point. Once he becomes a target, I believe that's when he's closer to being indicted. Either way, to claim this is some sort of vindication of Trump, that he's under investigation by the FBI, is pretty dumb.

As usual, you're wrong.

A memo also surfaced detailing a bit of Mueller's investigation after Manafort's lawyers moved to dismiss his indictment. The memo authorized Mueller to investigate potential crimes in regards to payments Manafort took and his involvement with Russia and the Ukraine. This is a huge development and shows that Mueller is looking into Manafort's financials and how they relate to Russia. He's not simply looking into money laundering etc. This is just a couple of steps away from Trump.

It is said that Trump is also getting ready to talk with Mueller. Which is probably why Dowd quit and one of the dumbest moves he could make. Once he does that, we'll be even closer to this ending.

#400 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 422 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Watching Anderson Cooper I think Roger Stone has totally played Democrats and the media. It's pretty telling Mueller hasn't paid him much attention. At the end of the day I don't think any collusion will be found with Trump. I think the big thing will be obstruction with his son's letter. Comey deserved to be fired and that will end up being pretty flimsy, even with the loyalty thing. I think Don Jr 's stupidity is his biggest threat.

BTW, another mass knife attack in England. There have been more murders in London than New York. How bout 'dem gun bans!

Next time somebody goes to an open concert and knifes 600 people, killing 60 or so, get back to me.

misterID wrote:

Watching Anderson Cooper I think Roger Stone has totally played Democrats and the media.

I think Roger Stone is very possibly in deep shit right now.

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